Air Boom Game Used Aircraft Market - Frustrating anyone?

[ekaneti]

I think some of the crap aircraft can be cleaned out. Who in 1976 was still flying Airspeed Ambassadors?

[Sami]

I think some of the crap aircraft can be cleaned out. Who in 1976 was still flying Airspeed Ambassadors?

They will be gone automatically if nobody buys them for some time. One-by-one of course so it takes a while.


And also to others .. Please do not post all the time to generate more aircraft model XYZ "because I need it", it won't happen.

[isuzu777]

Well, it is right to keep it as realisitc as possible, I totally agree with it.

However, there're 3355 Boeing planes delivered between 1989-1996 in real world, considering we only have 1764 in service in Boom Age. I feel that maybe the used planes especially for Boeing and Airbus were "generated" not enough at the first place.

When the route is empty and you don't have planes, that would be panic.

Sami, if this is true then it would justify adding more used aircraft to the game "out of thin air." Were enough generated in the first place, to mimic the amount in service at the game start? If not, then the low number if used aircraft in the game is not realistic, and I thought realism was what we were shooting for here.

[NicholasB]

exactly. that's why i quit and BKed.

I totaly agree with this too. first you struggle so hard with small aircraft on regional routes competing with jets etc., and after months of scrapping up every penny you have, it is a very very risky venture to use your cash for an aircraft order which, at this rate will arrive 3-4 years later. meanwhile the big operators continue to order jets and extend this waiting list even further. Actualy its not only jets, you look at any of the modern prop aircraft, ie: ATR, Bombardier and there are long waits for those too. Another thing, unrelated, i have some routes where i am the sole operator, yet my loads seem to go down, big operators seem to flood other markets and still seem to grow.

Living in Japan i know that their is a huge demand for the haneda Sapporo route, but by no means can it support something like 60 daily flights. Did some basic math and that is one flight to Chitose every 24 minutes and their is still room to grow capacity on that route according to the game. This does not account for all other domestic and some international routes into and out of Haneda.

My opinion, but there does seem to be some serious flaws in the game.

[Filippo]

I said it before, but never got an answer, what was wrong with the old aircraft market that made the game much more enjoyable?

[Sami]

It has been answered already many times here.

[Filippo]

oh yes I must have missed it!

[DSimm626]

To answer the OP, yes its all very frustrating. This is a game meant for entertainment and enjoyment and that is all gone because my hands are tied to the aircraft I have or waiting weeks on end(real time, years game time) for a new aircraft orders to come through since the line for them are well into the hundreds. The game is what, 13 weeks long?

I know its been said there won't be unlimited numbers, which is fine, but there has to be a happy medium between nothing and unlimited. I joined in the middle of AWS #1 and didn't have the problem I do now.

This really looks bad for new customers who join now because there is totally nothing for them to use.

[FlorianF]

The market is indeed frustrating. I have now a backlog of ~60 new aircraft, the latest being delivered in 2002.  I have even ordered some Russian aircraft to avoid the backlog of Boeing and Airbus. I don't take even the time anymore to take a look at the used market, it's just a waste of time. There is too few available to make everything work. I agree that the availability was excessive in previous games, but this way it is exactly the opposite. I hope that sami can fix that more "useful" aircraft come available, because the game now consists of waiting instead of actively managing your airline.

Regards,
Florian

EDIT : The game is right about Haneda-Sapporo, You see mainly narrowbody flights there while in reality its sees 30 flights a day, but with 767/777/744.

[pharmy]

I'm playing all three games, never really use the used plane market in Jet Age 1 and Boom, just once in a while check in there to see if I'm lucky, but never found anything.  In Jet Age II you can find a 727/737 or DC-10 about 25% of the time, so I guess for about 200 players the market is calibrated well. To bad that 200 players makes the game too easy.

[samsaunders85]

Fully agreed with the topic, its driven me up the wall. Too many players in the game, no cap on aircraft orders, pretty much nothing in the used market, and a ridiculous competitive market. All above are valid arguments but I miss the old days when it was a a maximum of 350 players and aircraft grew on trees, sniff

[Filippo]

The game proceeds extremely slowly in this way. I agree that the market is calibrated for 200 people, not for 350

[blair21088]

I tried to warn people...