(comments) AirwaySim v.1.3 news, previews & info

[meiru]

Well... it was listed in a feature request that got an [ok]... so, I'm still hoping 

[Infinity]

So, I have 265 aircraft up for sale in JA and got a subtraction of -41 995 647 USD for aircraft parking last week. What up?

/edit: adjusted the sum as the initial sum was lacking sundays charge.

[Mr.HP]

So, I have 265 aircraft up for sale in JA and got a subtraction of -35 937 948 USD for aircraft parking last week. What up?

I though sami said for WB, parking is $500/frame/day (2005 value), so 36M means 19.400/frame/day JA value?

[dmoose42]

I got a bill for 61 million for one week in JA (some 500 frames...) - clearly not 500 dollars, euros, maybe the bill came in yen and my accountants paid in dollars?

[Hillians]

did your aircrafts get forced to do maintenance checks and perhaps the costs were allocated to parking instead of maintenance?

the numbers mentioned would support this.

[Sami]

No, it was the parking fee only. And strangely only in Jet Age, so something with the inflation or that way I guess. But just adjusting it.

[Zombie Slayer]

MT has to be off by at least a little....I have 28 idle planes this morning (15 A319, 1 737-800, and 12 various 777) and I was getting hit with a $1.9m/week parking fee. That is $9,693/day/plane and I have about 5 more planes on site this morning than last night so that number is low. Per the 1.3 updates log post on plane parking, the max fee for a very large aircraft in 2005 should be $500/day (https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,26356.msg286746.html#msg286746) so something is wrong here too.

DOTM 6 currently 17 idle planes (7 737-3/4, 10 ATR -42/72) and the hit was ~$450,000/week or $3,781 per plane which inflation adjusted is at least 10 times what was reported to be the fee.

[b757capt]

Whats with the suggested aircraft pricing?

I have never seen this before nor do I see any topics on it.

[Sami]

Not yet 'officially' announced but can and should be used for testing: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,17005.msg288740.html#msg288740

(needed due to accounting changes)

[ekaneti]

Hi:

I thought MX expired aircraft would be no longer offered for sale on the used market.

[xyeahtony]

Hi:

I thought MX expired aircraft would be no longer offered for sale on the used market.

there's a grace period while people figure out the new rules. I'm sure they'll be bumped from the market eventually

[dmoose42]

This is my understanding as well; although I hope that the planes aren't bumped from the UM, but rather the player simply has to continue to pay the C/D MX on them.  It would be really annoying if you had to place your planes on the UM anew every time a C-check happened...

[b757capt]

I'm not a fan of the advisor pricing in lieu of the actual value being displayed.

What's the point?

[Sami]

"Actual value", like it used to be here, has got nothing to do with "real" accounting and such stuff, to which we'll be moving shortly.

You have a book value of the aircraft (you paid let's say $50mil of it 10 years ago and now the value of the plane in your book keeping is $25mil) and then you have a "market value" of the aircraft which depends entirely on what you wish to sell the plane for, and what it's age, condition etc are. This market value is determined by supply and demand and is not calculated by the system, but it will try to help you determine it, but in this example it could be for example $30mil .. not related to book value anyway on any level. (if you sell the plane over you book value, it's a profit, and other way around)

= Two entirely separate things now...

[Cardinal]

- For leased planes there is naturally no value displayed as you are not their owner. If you wish to purchase the leased plane the buying cost is determined by the broker like previously. In case you purcase the plane the 'book value' will be the actual purchase price what you paid for it, and it will depreciate over the same rules as any purchased used aircraft.

In this case, does the "actual purchase price" that determines the book value include paying 50% of the remaining lease when you buy the plane? Or will the book value be (purchase price) - (lease termination penalty)?

[Sami]

Currently (or in the new code) when you buy out the lease the book value is the entire sum you pay for it, but actually correct way would be to put the 50% of the remaining lease under lease fees instead yes .. Have to change that probably.

[meiru]

yes, and from a bookkeeping standpoint, it's wrong to take the price you pay as book value... it should be the "true" value or, what officials think it should be... could be, that I buy a house for let's say 800k ... and then the tax authority  tells me, that I have to pay tax for a 1.3M house, because they say, that's the true value of the house... (happens often and is sometimes a real problem for our company)

[b757capt]

"Actual value", like it used to be here, has got nothing to do with "real" accounting and such stuff, to which we'll be moving shortly.

You have a book value of the aircraft (you paid let's say $50mil of it 10 years ago and now the value of the plane in your book keeping is $25mil) and then you have a "market value" of the aircraft which depends entirely on what you wish to sell the plane for, and what it's age, condition etc are. This market value is determined by supply and demand and is not calculated by the system, but it will try to help you determine it, but in this example it could be for example $30mil .. not related to book value anyway on any level. (if you sell the plane over you book value, it's a profit, and other way around)

= Two entirely separate things now...

I'm sorry I should have clarified. I think we should be able to see an actual dollar amount of an appraised value for aircraft. The guidance provided by the adviser is just not enough for me. My two cents :-)

[LemonButt]

sami--current scrap value is 30% and aircraft depreciate to 10%.  Does this mean that the scrap value will eventually be higher than book value or has scrap value changed also?

[Mr.HP]

I'm sorry I should have clarified. I think we should be able to see an actual dollar amount of an appraised value for aircraft. The guidance provided by the adviser is just not enough for me. My two cents :-)

Agree. Something like an estimate value done by company staff, with accuracy of 90-95% is OK