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Missing aircraft models from database

Started by Sami, October 23, 2010, 07:43:07 AM

drhyed (Crash Airline)

What about DC-8 Super 70s? 110 were "made" or converted and were used in both passenger and freight service by big name airlines and freight companies; For those who dont know DC-8 Super 70's were DC-8 60 series that had CMF-56-2 installed at a cost of about $12 million per aircraft.

"The Super 70s were about 70% quieter than the Super 60 Series and between 18% and 25% more fuel efficient than the JT3D, depending on the model"

DC-8-71 - range of at least 4100nm a fuel burn of 8300 kg/hr FAA certification on August 15th 1981
DC-8-72 - range of at least 6070nm a fuel burn of 7060 kg/hr FAA certification on September 17th 1982.
DC-8-73 - range of at least 5860nm a fuel burn of 7320 kg/hr FAA certification on June 23rd 1983

those are going off the conservative numbers, they also had decreased take off run and all models would then qualify for Chapter 4 certification. It was reported that all versions of the aircraft gained at least a 40% increase in usable range but were still limited to 60 series operational limits. I would think these would be an easy update to incorporate much like when you can install hush kits for certain aircraft.



http://www.airlineratings.com/news.php?id=187

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8139/dc-dedication-first-last-v2






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qunow

#122
Fairchild F-27
- Basically Fokker F27 but manufactured in America, but still differ in some aspects.
http://all-aero.com/index.php/contactus/45-planes-d-e-f/3918-fokker-f-27-friendship

Fairchild Hiller FH-227
- Stretch version of Fairchild F27.
http://www.aviastar.org/air/usa/fair_fh-227.php

Avia Av-14
- Ilyushin Il-14Ms built by Avia under licence in Czechoslovakia. Include Avia 14-24, Avia 14-32, Avia 14-40, which are the 24, 32, 40 seats versions respectively.
http://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/s-v-iljusin/avia-av-14-il-14-/

Avia Av-14 Super
- 1960-model by Avia with a pressurized cabin for 32, 36, or 42 passengers, fitted with long-range wing-tip fuel tanks.
http://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/ruska-technika/letecka-technika/s-v-iljusin/avia-av-14-il-14-/

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden Il-14P
- Ilyushin Il-14Ps built by VVB Flugzeugbau under licence in East Germany.
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd.html
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd/il-14p.html

texan3570

Basler Turbo BT-67, it is an upgraded DC-3. It replaces the piston engine with P&W PT6 engines, increases range by double, which by the way is 800 NM not 300nm as in the game :-[
The BT-67 was launched in 1990 and costs around $2 million to build, this zero times the aircraft, gives it new engines, places a 10ft plug in the front, increases max usable load by 42%, lightens the plane, increases MTOW, known icing certified and a whole slew of other goodies. I think it would be a good addition to those still holding onto the past or for cargo users on short fat routes where a larger, than a cessna, would be helpful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basler_BT-67
http://www.baslerturbo.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=yAHcAbxuu00

Thanks Sami for all you do! Loving the GW2 and the cargo world!

texan3570

Junkers Ju 90
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_90

I think it would do very well on the used market against the DC-3. Since it seat 40 pax.

qunow

#125
IL-96-400M
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2017-04-11/ilyushin-il-96-400m-widebody-taking-shape
http://www.rusaviainsider.com/improved-ilyushin-il-96-airliner-to-fly-in-2019/

Grumman G-159 Gulfstream I
(Although it's designed as bizjet, many airlines used it for scheduled passenger services)
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/grumman-g-159-gulfstream-i/236

Grumman G-159C Gulfstream I-C
(And it is the stretched version for regional airlines)
http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data/grumman-g-159-gulfstream-i/236

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 152
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd.html
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd/152.html


VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 153
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd.html
http://www.flugzeug-lorenz.de/index.php?id=86
http://www.flugzeug-lorenz.de/fileadmin/user_upload/2015/153A_Seiten_70-71.pdf

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 154
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd.html

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 155
https://www.biancahoegel.de/flug/typen/ddr/fwd.html

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 156
(pending online reference search)

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 157
(pending online reference search)

VEB Flugzeugwerke Dresden 160
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/160_(Flugzeug)

Air Express AE100>AE316/317/318
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1.html
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1a.html
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/timeout-in-asia-28931/

NAMC YS-X
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1.html
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1a.html

AI(R) Airjet 70
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1.html
http://edition.cnn.com/ASIANOW/asiaweek/97/0425/aa1a.html
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airjet-cancellation-sparks-reactions-30709/

Kawasaki YP-X(YPX-10/YPX-11/YPX-12)/YC-X
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/japan/yp-x.htm
http://wind.ap.teacup.com/aviationbusiness/50.html

Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm MPC75
http://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/MPC75.html

ATRA-90
https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1986/1986%20-%202425.PDF
https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1986/1986%20-%201611.PDF

NAMC YS-33 (YS-33-10/20/30//YX-B/C/D)
(links to be insrted here)

NAMC YS-11J
(links to be insrted here)

NAMC YS-11S
(links to be insrted here)

Tupolev Tu-334-100D/-200
http://our-russia.com/26052016114228/russias-tupolev-revive-tu-334-aircraft
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/tupolev-rolls-out-tu-334-24356/
(btw shouldn't 334 and 204 belong to same family?)

Tupolev Tu-304/330
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/tupolev-10213/

MD-90-10EC/30EC/40/40EC
https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/1990/1990%20-%200486.PDF

Boeing 717-300X/100X
https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightPDFArchive/2003/2003%20-%201787.PDF

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-maintains-717-campaign-50825/ The currently available 717 with less than 50t MTOW that are marked as standard in game should probably be labelled as minus MTOW variant?

gazzz0x2z

There is one Baade 152 model already in the game that summarizes all your VEBs. Considering the "success" of the aircraft, it's far enough.

qunow

Quote from: gazzz0x2z on July 27, 2017, 05:40:36 AM
There is one Baade 152 model already in the game that summarizes all your VEBs. Considering the "success" of the aircraft, it's far enough.
They are all different aircrafts with vastly different design, for example 152 was a quad jet and 153 was to be a twin turboprop and 154 was to be a large quad turboprop aircraft and 155 was to be a smaller twin jet according to webpages listed above. And I don't think all of them can be named under Baade


fark24

Don't know if this has been brought up yet but how about the Fairchild Metro V/25? Per the wiki, the model was first advertised at the Paris Air Show in 1987 and a prototype built in 1989.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairchild_Swearingen_Metroliner

Info states the capacity for the 25/V increases to 25 (the Metro 23 we have in-game is listed at 19).

Additionally, flightglobal archives lists a gross weight is 16,000lbs. Range goes up 220nm with newer Garrett TPE-331-12 engines (Metro 23 has -11 engines). Engine power goes up 8% and field performance is also improved.

Flightglobal also lists cargo volumes. This is something we are currently missing for the Metro 23 so I hope this can be added very soon. It lists the Metro 23 aft baggage volume at 143.5 cubic feet. For the Metro V/25, the aft baggage volume is 206 cubic feet.

For use as a pure freighter (which the Metro 23 has been used as), the cabin volume is 622 cubic feet. So forward, cabin, and aft would be 45 + 622 + 143.5 = 810.5 cubic feet of cargo volume. For the Metro V/25, the forward/cabin/aft total freighter volume would be 45 + 622 + 206 = 873 cubic feet.

Sources:

https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1988/1988%20-%200878.html
https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1988/1988%20-%200878.html

Tujue

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Alpha

Quote from: drhyed (Crash Airline) on July 03, 2017, 09:47:36 PM
What about DC-8 Super 70s? 110 were "made" or converted and were used in both passenger and freight service by big name airlines and freight companies; For those who dont know DC-8 Super 70's were DC-8 60 series that had CMF-56-2 installed at a cost of about $12 million per aircraft.

"The Super 70s were about 70% quieter than the Super 60 Series and between 18% and 25% more fuel efficient than the JT3D, depending on the model"

DC-8-71 - range of at least 4100nm a fuel burn of 8300 kg/hr FAA certification on August 15th 1981
DC-8-72 - range of at least 6070nm a fuel burn of 7060 kg/hr FAA certification on September 17th 1982.
DC-8-73 - range of at least 5860nm a fuel burn of 7320 kg/hr FAA certification on June 23rd 1983

those are going off the conservative numbers, they also had decreased take off run and all models would then qualify for Chapter 4 certification. It was reported that all versions of the aircraft gained at least a 40% increase in usable range but were still limited to 60 series operational limits. I would think these would be an easy update to incorporate much like when you can install hush kits for certain aircraft.



http://www.airlineratings.com/news.php?id=187

http://tonymadgehjg.proboards.com/thread/8139/dc-dedication-first-last-v2

With the upgrades option appearing soon, will the Super 70s finally make it into the game? If so Ill be very looking forward to it  :D

qunow

The aircraft originally known as C-929 is now officially named as CR929. Its three proposed variants will be CR929-500, CR929-600, CR929-700. It is to be design/make by the CRAIC.

NovemberCharlie

Quote from: qunow on September 29, 2017, 08:41:41 AM
The aircraft originally known as C-929 is now officially named as CR929. Its three proposed variants will be CR929-500, CR929-600, CR929-700. It is to be design/make by the CRAIC.
I think we read the same papers  ;)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/uac-and-comac-christen-widebody-family-as-cr-929-441648/?cmpid=SOC|Twitter|Flightglobal|sf117626376|sf117626376&sfid=701w0000000uP3H#sf117626376

qunow

Quote from: NovemberCharlie on September 29, 2017, 09:13:37 AM
I think we read the same papers  ;)
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/uac-and-comac-christen-widebody-family-as-cr-929-441648/?cmpid=SOC|Twitter|Flightglobal|sf117626376|sf117626376&sfid=701w0000000uP3H#sf117626376

Data:
CR929-600: length 63.07m, wingspan 61m, height 17.91m. Fuelsage height 6.068m and fuelsage width 5.920m, cabin width: 5.588m, range 12000km is with a payload of 28.84t and typical seating of 280, MTOW 234t, MLW 190t
Proposed to use RR or GE engine at launch but will offer Chinese CJ2000 engine or/and Russian PD35 engine when they're developed.
Project expected to take 10 years' time until delivery although the most ambitious plan call for first flight at 2021.
CR929-500: 250 seats 14000km
CR929-700: 320 seats 10000km

wilian.souza2

#136
Convair 600 and 640, which are upgraded versions of Convair 240/340/440s with turboprop engines. I think it's worth adding because Convair itself would make the modifications and these models are considered new models. This page shows relevant technical specs for them.

Convair 640s tech specs


Talentz

Quote from: wilian.souza2 on November 02, 2017, 03:10:57 PM
Convair 600 and 640, which are upgraded versions of Convair 240/340/440s with turboprop engines. I think it's worth adding because Convair itself would make the modifications and these models are considered new models. This page shows relevant technical specs for them.

Convair 640s tech specs

Hello. I've submitted the data for the CV-580 to Sami. The -580 covers the CV-340/440. Unfortunately, it leaves the CV-240 out to dry. I choose the CV-580 (Allison 501-D13D) over the CV600/640 (RR Dart) conversions because the former had a higher cruise and longer legs. Also, I am not sure Sami would be keen to add multiple different conversions for 1 base model. Could the system handle that and what would be the value in having those models all overlap one another..?

That said, it takes time for new models (as opposed to variants that share flight data) to be added. Hopefully sooner rather then later.

Talentz

Co-founder and Managing member of: The Star Alliance Group™ - A beta era, multi-brand alliance.

wilian.souza2

Quote from: Talentz on November 02, 2017, 06:02:11 PM
I am not sure Sami would be keen to add multiple different conversions for 1 base model. Could the system handle that and what would be the value in having those models all overlap one another..?

I think they could be added as new models, not necessarily upgrades for the current models. Anyway, it's worth adding because they were a commercial success, and in AWS we see models who didn't get past prototype stage in real life thriving in some gameworlds, like Aviation Traders' Accouuntant Series in GW2...

fark24

New aircraft type as been launched: ATR 72-600F.

Inaugural order placed by FedEx and announced Nov 8, 2017. Entry into service set for 2020.

Info on launch dates: https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/atr-launches-600-freighter-with-large-fedex-order-442989/


Regarding capacity, it is reported to have 74.3 cubic meters of space - enough for 7 LD3 containers

Info on capacity: http://atwonline.com/airframes/fedex-express-orders-50-new-build-atr-freighters