A bit of assistance on aircraft data ...

[Sami]

In order to improve the aircraft configurator at AWS we need a bit of additional information about each aircraft model - namely the internal / cabin length of each aircraft model in the database.

As this is merely a task of finding data we would like to ask for the assistance of our users so that the time of the developer is spent to more pressing issues instead. So if you have access to reliable data then please add the missing data using this form.

Please note! We are not looking for data on the overall aircraft length or on the fuselage length. The "cabin length" / "internal length" is the value needed - do NOT report anything else!

If aircraft is in two levels (747 or A380), sum the two level lengths together into a single number. Enter all data in meters!

To enter the data please go to this page: https://www.airwaysim.com/cabin/   (must login first)   It lists you only those models with some missing data.


Thank you!

[ICEcoldair881]

btw, could I send in the B787-3 and B747-8I? both are released the same time as the regular 787s and 747-8.

[ban2]

here is a good source of data for players, sami you may know of this already unfortunatly it does'nt show dimensions of cabin.

http://www.airliners.net/aircraft-data

[hoogvlieger]

This page gives the cabin length of most of the aircraft you're looking for:

http://www.zap16.com/civ%20fact/civil%20fact.htm

[mukk]

you should maybe also ask for the source of the data on that web form (just an additional textfield to put the link to the data, if found on the internet), so you can later on decide on your own if you consider the provided data reliable or not.

[Sami]

This page gives the cabin length of most of the aircraft you're looking for:

I know the site but doesn't seem to have that info on very many models..

[Aldo]

For "cabin legth" you speak about the space required ONLY for seating or the space for toilets, galley, etc also??

[Sami]

Cabin length is normally defined as the space aft from cockpit to the end of the rear wall of cabin, so including galleys.

[Jona L.]

would it be helpful to use the data that e.g. Boeing gives out about the maximum capacity instead of using cabing leangth??
than I would recommand you the pages of the yircraft producers (in minimum for modern/today availile jets/planes)!!

www.airbus.com
www.boeing.com

that are the two main, as you probably know

good luck
I cannot be that much helpful, due to not having the measuries that you need

cu

[Aldo]

They offer you only certain configuration with a certain seat pitch.
E.g: they show you a config with 3 toilets and 180 seat @ 34inches and you want 1 toilet and seat @ 32inches.

With the cabin length you can arrange the space as you want!

[Powi]

would it be helpful to use the data that e.g. Boeing gives out about the maximum capacity instead of using cabing leangth??
than I would recommand you the pages of the yircraft producers (in minimum for modern/today availile jets/planes)!!

www.airbus.com
www.boeing.com

that are the two main, as you probably know

good luck
I cannot be that much helpful, due to not having the measuries that you need

cu

That's how it's modeled at the moment.

[Sami]

Still plenty of data missing.

Like I guessed this data is probably quite hard to find but in any case the information of the cabin length is required to be able to further tune and develop the configuration system. If there simply isn't data available then the cabin length could be derived from the total length of the aircraft and the number of seats and seat pitch.

[Sami]

Bumping this up if there are some more sources somewhere..

[MA831]

Er... Maybe I'm missing something obvious here, but it took me around 10 seconds of googling to find Flight International's Directory of Commercial Aircraft, which has the cabin length for (almost) every aircraft from the 1960's onwards. This has data for at least the Antonovs, the recent Boeings, the Fairchilds, some of the Ilyushins, the YS-11's and the Vickers... However, since it was so easy to find, I'm thinking that perhaps somebody has already found it and discarded it for unreliability? If somebody more familiar with this type of information can take a look and say if this is legit? I'm shying away from the responsibility for uploading this data, if you haven't noticed  .

[Sami]

If you check what data is actually missing anymore, you'll notice that it's not on that site.

[Aldo]

I found about 20 aircraft or more data from 60's to 90' in the Flight internationl's Archive. What is missing here is missing in the archive also..

[Sami]

Bump to this topic if anyone is able to dig up the last remaining datas there, would speed by process a bit.

[Curse]

A small idea on this;

maybe somebody with much better English skills than myself can write an E-Mail to big manufacturers (Ilyushin, Tupolev etc.) still existing and ask them for the data? I think it's nothing that they will keep for themselves, especially the old 40s 50s 60s aircraft like Tu-114...

[Sami]

It's not that big of a deal .. and can't get replies from them, I know.

If the CABIN length is not found, I will just use a best-guess method to derive it from the overall length of the airplane. There are some 50 models missing this data and I think there's not much change in finding that info. But 360+ models are already covered.

[Runner]

From which aircraft types do you still need data? If I can some spare time, I'll google for it.