I am tired of 30 min day games

Started by saetta, February 15, 2022, 12:41:52 AM

saetta

I think min day games are an enormous waste of time ....even 25 is too long. This is a planning game , but once that is done you might go a week without any serious decision . Sammy does not seem to like changes , but this one might be necessary . I have been playing 4 + years now and if things don't change I might stop. Getting a bit boring ...Your thoughts fellow players ?

pascaly

Different game worlds have different day lengths. If you like the shorter games days, only play those games. Some people prefer longer game days. Why is it necessary to change the entire game when there is already a solution in place?  Also, not all players have the option to sit on this game 24/7, only accessing their airline when they can. Those that do already have a huge advantage. Shortening the day lengths across the board will only enhance that advantage.




tungstennedge

I used to hate the 30 min game days too, and 25. However, I learned to like it as it allows for long breaks without problems beginning in your airline. However, there is definitely huge selection bias here. There must be plenty of players who came and left for the exact reasons you mentioned above, where after buying planes and making some routes there is nothing to do for long periods of time.

Most existing players are OK with what we have now, since at this point most existing players have been playing for a long time, and are accustomed and OK with the current time and systems. What I always believed should happen is that we should just just out different systems and see how the game is effected.


Speedworld was the world where we tried faster games, 15 mins in the begining they were 15 mins and then 20 minutes after that. I think it was definitely enjoyable and something that should be kept around. They were quite popular for a non epic world, perhaps these could be changes back to 15 of even ten minutes just to see what happens.


Amelie090904

And then there is me who cannot keep up playing 2 game worlds with 30 min per day. And that is being a freelancer working from home all day long and constantly logging in to do stuff. I once tried the speed world, but it was pure chaos for me. Not enjoyable whatsoever and I truly hated it.

I like how it is now and find it about perfect.

But yes, of course it depends on how big of an airline you have, where you play and what your own motivations are. For me personally, after 60 years in HatF, I still optimize my fleet, have a transition to do, am still attempting to get the top #3 pax and top #3 score. There is just always something to do. Mess with plane configs, schedules, add planes every year with more OOB, renew planes, map cargo demand regularly...there is always something. That alone keeps me busy. And somehow I decided to play MT which is actually too much for me to be honest.

Short: If it gets boring, you either have a small airline or you don't play enough game worlds.  ;D

saetta

I don't have small airlines and i am consistently in the top 30 in all the games i have played and currently . I cant seem to consistently be in the teens , i occasionally get there for a little while then fall back to the 30 s . Probably cus i am bored and don't refine things to the max.  I do resent the comments of having lots time ... some of of us might have structured our lives to be able to afford leisure others...oh well!!

saetta

#5
Give me a break andre have you checked my stats !! You are about to go bankrupt , and you are giving me arrogant advice !!

saetta

I am not requesting advice on what games to play or how to play them! All am saying is that 30 minutes seem too long to me , you can agree or disagree , but please spear me you unrequested advice  Cheers

Continental Sky

Quote from: pascaly on February 15, 2022, 01:16:51 AMIf you like the shorter games days, only play those games.

And those are which games?

Apart from Beginners Worlds, there is only The Speed World at 20 minutes per day, and its fate now hangs on voting results.

I second proposal for even faster GW, something like 10 minutes per day or even faster, why not.

Amelie090904

Quote from: saetta on February 15, 2022, 06:16:11 AM
Give me a break andre have you checked my stats !! You are about to go bankrupt , and you are giving me arrogant advice !!

Age of Flight? Yeah, I had no time to log in into that game world for months. My main focus is HatF with MT being a side project. AoF is completely idle. As I said, I can barely keep up with 2 game worlds, let alone 3.

Also, not sure why you feel offended. I simply presented my point of view. I could not care less how you play or manage your airline. All I know is that 30min is perfect for me to barely keep up with 2 big airlines (1000+ planes). There is always something to do. Be it listing planes to alliance partners, adding more planes due to growing OOB, mapping constantly changing cargo demand, reconfiguring planes to maximize passenger numbers, checking upon competitors, renewing planes before they get too old, check the used market for good deals etc.

Also, talking about arrogant: You basically said nobody except you knows how to "structure our lives". Well, congrats then for not being arrogant at all yourself.  ;D

swiftus27

Quote from: saetta on February 15, 2022, 06:16:11 AM
Give me a break andre have you checked my stats !! You are about to go bankrupt , and you are giving me arrogant advice !!

Ya, Andre.  You suck at this game.  Why do you even speak up?   You would do us all a favor if you just went away.  You and the rest of the only active people in Discord and the forums.  It's that ELITE-ist attitude that so many find sickening.   Ugh.

Amelie090904

Quote from: swiftus27 on February 15, 2022, 01:16:55 PM
You suck at this game.

@Saetta: Maybe you can help? I feel like I'm going bankrupt. Might be because I need to structure my life a bit better?

groundbum2

I made the suggestion ages ago that as players in a gameworld we should be able to have a vote on the speed. So at the beginning of a game it should be fixed at 30min/day. But after a decade or so active players should have a setting where they vote for 10,15,20,25,30 minutes per day on the settings page. Then once a game month or so AWS would tally the votes nd redo the speed to suit the majority. I find there gets a time where I can leave my airline for a month and nothing much happens.

Simon

swiftus27

This game is essentially a giant RNG and spreadsheet in one.  It displays the data in a pretty way.   The more calculations you make the game make (15 minutes is obviously double 30) the more server power Sami needs to have.   

In aside, 15 minute days is absurdly fast and would have other consequences.  Such as if someone misses a RL week for a vacation then they have missed almost 2 game years.   

gazzz0x2z

I had a 3-days weekend (the monday being spent at the hospital for my kid) with no connection, nearly. Lost one quarter of gameplay. The quicker the game, the more I'd have lost. OTOH, quicker game help to unfold the game quicker.

there is no "right" value, just values that fit some people more and some people less. 30 minutes is good because it's reasy to read, but 15 minutes games can be fun too, just a different way.

Meddix

Speed of the game is also determined by the slot mulitplier and ..... like in TMT no OoB limit


schlaf

Am I the only one that thinks the day are too short? I would like to see 40-45min/day!

Jake

Quote from: schlaf on February 15, 2022, 09:19:43 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the day are too short? I would like to see 40-45min/day!
I would prefer a 60 minute day to be honest, 25 or 30 minutes are just too fast to keep up even when playing 2 gw's  :)
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schlaf

Quote from: Jake S on February 15, 2022, 09:47:41 PM
I would prefer a 60 minute day to be honest, 25 or 30 minutes are just too fast to keep up even when playing 2 gw's  :)

60 min would be even better!!

+1 on that!!  :)