(comments) AirwaySim v.1.3 news, previews & info

[JumboShrimp]

Exactly! If a strategy is open and not dubbed illegal or a bug, I don't see how it can be considered an "exploit".  The whole point of this simulation is to try to figure out the best way to get to an end goal.  If its available and it works then why not use it?  I'm really hoping we aren't turning into a group of people that say succeeding is illegal. 

Agreed.

But the general goal of AWS was to slow down the initial growth of the airlines, to extend the more exciting part of the game world into a longer time frame.  To be consistent with that, I made that feature request, to make starting with LH to be more challenging

Flying LH with older aircraft can be profitable to begin with.  But it does have its risks.  The D checks of old aircraft, even a series of C checks can put an airline into serious jeopardy.  There have been many large BKs in the past of airlines pursuing this strategy that did not manage to transition to a sustainable aircraft quickly enough...

[Infinity]

Flying LH with older aircraft can be profitable to begin with.  But it does have its risks.  The D checks of old aircraft, even a series of C checks can put an airline into serious jeopardy.  There have been many large BKs in the past of airlines pursuing this strategy that did not manage to transition to a sustainable aircraft quickly enough...

Exactly, hence I don't deem it an exploit. It has its merits, but also its risks. The later starting date of MT9 made it a lot more riskier again, as there is little time to replace them before 9/11 or fuel shock.

[stevecree]

I moaned like hell yesterday about the new slot situation, and would like to thank Sami for listening to us.  AMS has had 5 slots in 10 hours and instantly problem solved....slots for everyone.  Far better solution IMO.

[Maarten Otto]

I moaned simply for the reason that I wasn't fond of such systems being introduced mid game. I am not against such system at all, just against the way it was thrown upon us.

[Infinity]

I moaned simply for the reason that I wasn't fond of such systems being introduced mid game. I am not against such system at all, just against the way it was thrown upon us.

Exactly, but since Sami listened to reason, I would say let's not ponder on the past but help propose a better overall system for the future.

[Maarten Otto]

I was (and still am) fond of that 'company gates' thing where you can buy or rent space at an airport terminal. Included in that package are a certain amount of runway slots.

However I do see a problem emerging from this system. If I have to use my gates efficiently I need to park certain aircraft on other airports otherwise my gate will be empty during some hours. Therefore we have to be able to maintain the aircraft at an out station (at a higher price). Or we must be able to sell or rent our capacity at the terminal to another airline.

[Sami]

This is not the thread to discuss of potential new ideas or features.

[LemonButt]

Don't like the new maps.  I liked the orange lines better than the red, mostly due to the fact the markers are red.  The current markers look fine for the alliance maps, but there needs to be smaller markers for the airline flight maps because they are (usually) much closer together and cluttered than the alliance map.  IMO the base airports should have the markers and the destinations just dots--it would make it much easier to figure out what you're looking at.  Here is the mess I have for my airline:

[Sami]

The airport dots already change size according to the number of routes & dots displayed on the map but have to tweak it (later) for the route maps

[flerk]

Don't like the new maps.  I liked the orange lines better than the red, mostly due to the fact the markers are red.  The current markers look fine for the alliance maps, but there needs to be smaller markers for the airline flight maps because they are (usually) much closer together and cluttered than the alliance map.  IMO the base airports should have the markers and the destinations just dots--it would make it much easier to figure out what you're looking at.  Here is the mess I have for my airline:

Agree. It's horrible like it is now and it is not just because of the markers (even though that carries the major fault) but the color red is just not appealing as the orange was.

[Maarten Otto]

It looks aggressive, bloody and clutters a lot. It's not ''easy'' for the eyes.

[BD]

It looks aggressive, bloody and clutters a lot. It's not ''easy'' for the eyes.

Agree...the orange was much more toned down vs the glaring red lines.   There was almost a "transparency" (not best word, but what I can come up with - "lower contrast" maybe?) to the orange lines.

Fortunately, I don't use it much, but I will be using the route map from the Airport Information screen as an alternative given that the routes are still showing as green lines there. Plus, it is more informative.

[connorc17]

I really miss being able to look at how many times per week an airline flies a certain route by looking at the the airport's route map and then by clicking the destination and having a little blurb of who and how many times it is flown. I don't know if this was moved elsewhere, but I'd like to see it back on the route page too. Made it really simple to see who was  doing what on heavy traffice routes.

[Aoitsuki]

the new route map adjustment looks good! Especially the mouse over to see destination(which I do not recall exist before...) thanks sami!

[ucfknightryan]

the new route map adjustment looks good! Especially the mouse over to see destination(which I do not recall exist before...) thanks sami!

Agreed, I really like the new map 

[BD]

Back to orange (green for one's own routes on the map from Airport Information page)...and "thinner" lines too? or is that just my imagination?

Nice.  And I like the smaller "dots" for the end points.

Thanks for the update sami 

[Jona L.]

I know that the appearance of my name in the forums (especially when I post) makes all sirens run berzerk at sami's system ( just joking )

However I still want to say something

I like the new mapping thing, especially after the red thing interim wise, it is very easy on the eyes. Anyhow I'd like to emphasize the request to get the amount of weekly flights back in. I don't know if that is possible with the '3rd party program update' referred to in the announcements thread from Google maps.

The thingy used to be very helpful in terms of "opposition research".

Thanks anyhow. And thanks also for taking back this other 'update' that seems not to be supposed to be talked about .

cheers,
[SC] Jona L.

[Infinity]

Automated checking: Good.
Having to manually repost them after their checks expire: Not good.

Storage Fee: HELL NO! Can't believe the lemonbutthurt whiners got their will again. $500 per day for a wide body are completely off the chart unrealistic, that's  half of what a Class A airport like FRA charges for a day of parking, certainly not even remotely close what some remote places charge.

[LemonButt]

Automated checking: Good.
Having to manually repost them after their checks expire: Not good.

Storage Fee: HELL NO! Can't believe the lemonbutthurt whiners got their will again. $500 per day for a wide body are completely off the chart unrealistic, that's  half of what a Class A airport like FRA charges for a day of parking, certainly not even remotely close what some remote places charge.

Ummm...my ultimate idea was to freeze the calendar for C/D checks while they were listed for sale, not what was implemented.  Also, the storage fee was an issue because so many airlines were buying aircraft with never having any intention of flying them (see the screenshot: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,49005.msg283772.html#msg283772).  It wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't at the detriment of other players.  IMO the storage fee isn't going to do anything to change the game dynamics so not sure what the big deal is.  $500/day = $15000/month = next to nothing.  The fee might as well be zero. People are still going to buy aircraft they never plan on flying and jam up production lines for those who actually want the airframes.

Perhaps if people didn't abuse the system these changes wouldn't be necessary?

[Mr.HP]

For a mega airline, with 1000 WB parking around, would cost like 180M per year

Auto C and D check for parking A/C. C check on WB cost easily 1M, and 1000 A/C will cost 1000M

Even so, if I'm that rich, I'd not care much. Now just the decision whether to obtain more asset, or to pay tax