Can't find good routes

[tim3w4rp]

Hi there,

I'm a new airwaySim fan and I wanted to open a route but they all have their demands already served when I look on the graph. The only remaining are small routes (~10 seats)
Are there any players squatting all of the highest routes ?

[TranceAvia]

Pick one route with really high demand (regardless if there is already someone flying it) fill said demand (+about 20%) and try to do it with as many rotations as possible. i.e if it was a 500 seat per day route, fly 5x 120 seaters roughly rather than 1 747 etc.

That will increase your route awareness and your loads will mount up quickly...

[exchlbg]

You obviously chose a bad place to start your airline. I suggest you either relocate (if still possible) or go bankrupt and search for a better airport to start from. Best would be a medium sized airport without competition and still unserved demand. Might take a while but starting at the right place is essential.

Greetings
Christian

[Airbus101]

The games are pretty well entrenched right now, I suggest looking for a city that only has one airline in it or zero if you can find one.


Now that your in the game you can play with the route Planning option, hunt for a city you like that has 1 or less airlines, and use the rout planning to check out the viability of bankrupting and moving there, there is also a rebase feature.

However make sure the city you choose is not too small, and has a mix of domestic, and international so you don't get pigeon holed.  

If your new don't buy,lease planes with less then 45 seats, try to stick to 1-2 fleet groups, be pacient if only one airline is flying the route with you and you schedule well you'll eventually get 50% of the pax.  

If there are 3-4 airlines on the route or in the base skip it till your making money.

Don't expect to ace it your 1st try, it took me 4 airlines to make my first success I kept trying to base with the big boys.
Don't aim to take over the worl, aim to make a profit
Don't launch or land 2000-500, general rule can be broken when you learn...
Pick younger planes when u can, don't pay too much over market price deals will come, game is slow to start try not to rush.

Use the Fourm search command, if you need an answer it's probably been asked before,
then ask questions or reply to the thread you find.

Find an alliance they are a wealth of knowledge.

O and good luck...

Airbus101

[Jona L.]

The games are pretty well entrenched right now, I suggest looking for a city that only has one airline in it or zero if you can find one.


Now that your in the game you can play with the route Planning option, hunt for a city you like that has 1 or less airlines, and use the rout planning to check out the viability of bankrupting and moving there, there is also a rebase feature.

However make sure the city you choose is not too small, and has a mix of domestic, and international so you don't get pigeon holed.  

If your new don't buy,lease planes with less then 45 seats, try to stick to 1-2 fleet groups, be pacient if only one airline is flying the route with you and you schedule well you'll eventually get 50% of the pax.  

If there are 3-4 airlines on the route or in the base skip it till your making money.

Don't expect to ace it your 1st try, it took me 4 airlines to make my first success I kept trying to base with the big boys.
Don't aim to take over the worl, aim to make a profit
Don't launch or land 2000-500, general rule can be broken when you learn...
Pick younger planes when u can, don't pay too much over market price deals will come, game is slow to start try not to rush.

Use the Fourm search command, if you need an answer it's probably been asked before,
then ask questions or reply to the thread you find.

Find an alliance they are a wealth of knowledge.

O and good luck...

Airbus101

To add:

There are 2 really good guides: Swiftus' guide for newbs and Curse's AWS basic FAQ

Both are really helpful as a "how to get started", and "how to succeed"

enjoy the game, and good luck

cheers,
Jona L.

[tim3w4rp]

wow thank you all for helping me this good !!
I guess I have what I needed to know now with all your advice.
After two bankrupts, this game is more complex than I thought first, and I like it !

[Airbus101]

O and for a little extra cash set your CEO income to 0, unless you want a status ranking in that area...

[Belinik]

I also just started, just a few things I noticed it is not mentioned (or I failed to find) in those guide

I believe the goal for us starter who started in beginner world late is to learn how to survive and expand in the first 1-3 years, starting in a non competitive airport is great, but I fear when we start a new game later we may lack the knowledge how to compete in the same base against other player... a bankrupt to relocate or start a new base on a busy airport may be ideal later in game.

when you first started chances are you will be able to find a few route that might be very profitable, the income report gives you a nice green mark and you hit a threshold that you think you can lease another plane and you have like ~1.5m to spare. Don't jump the gun yet.You will have to include that after the 4th month you will be starting to pay the monthly lease of your new plane, and also the c-check that will come in a few months(if you have lease plane that had 8+ months remaining in C's). Those number add up Very fast. Leaving a large reserve is so crucial for your first 6-12 month since you do not know what is happening next.

This may not refer to you since you are the only base in that airport... Trying to stack route to increase demand ratio is great, only if you have the extra money and plane which we do not at the moment, despite the extra expense I would rather run longer route and even techstop to create a route with lesser demand filled instead of pulling teeth with another players who already bombarded the route already. The amount of investment require to hit those RI takes some time and you are not promised return. (there is a route that have 900 average demand, when I add 2* daily route in it became ~130% demand, I placed heavy marketing since it is a short route thinking it will improve when I hit 100% RI). Fast forward right now I hit 100% RI and my LF did not rise! Then when I check what happen somehow the avail. seat became 200% of demand!

Don't be afraid to close route, yes you will take a hit in airport slot etc for returning and buying new ones, but when starting aircraft time is much more valuable if you think there is another route that will get you more profit.

I cannot really comment on the mentor program since I have not taken benefit from it(the program seems a little dead or my application somehow slipped thru the crack). But I think it would be awesome if the more experience can point out what you can be doing wrong, and how to optimize the airline better. However I have gotten a few members that have provided very valuable advise, really appreciated their time and effort.

Good luck and have fun!

[tim3w4rp]

I found myself in the middle of nowhere, plus it is a city airport...
I'm making money, still, I have two leased aircrafts, around 5 routes and making money around 500k a week.

[knutm1980]

Never be afraid of loans. I'm all maxed out and a top 10 airline, and its merely a 1 million a week payment, but in the start, these are just a few thousand if that. The sooner you can afford to buy a plane, the sooner you get access to more credit.

[Belinik]

Never be afraid of loans. I'm all maxed out and a top 10 airline, and its merely a 1 million a week payment, but in the start, these are just a few thousand if that. The sooner you can afford to buy a plane, the sooner you get access to more credit.

quite interested about this:

for a starter would it be better to buy a cheap airplane (like a prop under 10m such as Antonov) to kick start the loan train? how much improvement is there in terms of margin/interest if security is applied?

Still trying to figure out when is the best time to start saving up for a first purchase...

[knutm1980]

quite interested about this:

for a starter would it be better to buy a cheap airplane (like a prop under 10m such as Antonov) to kick start the loan train? how much improvement is there in terms of margin/interest if security is applied?

Still trying to figure out when is the best time to start saving up for a first purchase...

I started leasing alot of planes till i had enough cash to buy a plane from the same fleet outright of the used market..you could of course check your numbers and start ordering new ones with a low initial payment and save up for delivery date. Your loans can then later be covered up to full amount of aircraft value. I wouldn't rush to buy the first plane available..as it takes about 10-12 planes to make a fleet pay for itself...so essentially, just stick to that and you should be fine.

[tim3w4rp]

We cannot loan when we start the game