B Check scheduling problems

Started by LukeSky, January 14, 2009, 08:58:32 AM

LukeSky

I have a problem with b checks I've put it on timetible but it isnt always done on time Sometimes the b check time expired and i have to do it manualy Thats a problem because imn not alwas on-line and i cant control everything When B has beeing expired the plane is getting grounded and im starting loosing money what could i do? My englisch isnt the best but i think you will understand me  :) Im waiting for responses

Talentz

Can you post a screen shot of your aircraft schedule? I could then help you a bit more.

Post something like this:





-Talentz

LukeSky

I see that you havent got any flights on time when b check has to be done Mayby thats my problem ? But as i wrote before It hapens only sometimes and sometimes everything is ok.

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Jps

Firstly, the free schedule Talentz has after A check is waste of time. there should always be a flight, if it's just possible to get it there. For Talentz, I' suggest to make a new, short flight depart when the A check is supposed to start, and then schedule the A check to start after that flight at about 00:00, depending on when the flight on next morning leaves.

Then, to Lukesky's problem. Like I already said, there is no point in leaving the slot the B check takes empty. When you schedule a flight there, it will be flown 3 times every month, and the 4th time just doesn't fly, but it isn't cancelled, either (so you don't get anything negative of not flying it due to B check).
And remember, that B checks are done once a month, on the last week of month. If you have just received the aircraft, it's B check may expire, because the last owner did B check for example every Monday, and you do it every Thursday (so it is expired for 3 days). But, this is usually a one-time thing and should not appear in next month, and usually shouldn't require any extra work from you (if you make the B check earlier than automatically, it will again expire next month for a few days).

estair

If I go aircraft and select the maintenance and wanna do the B or A check then it says the following:
You cannot perform this maintenance check as it has been made already recently.
Why cant I do A or B check whenever i feel like doing it?

Sami

they are not supposed to be made manually (unless in rare occasions where it has expired or something similar), but instead put in to the schedule and then they are made automatically on the scheduled dates.

Jps

Relating to checks, I recently received a new airplane that had condition of 69% when I ordered it. When I received i, the condition was 69%. But, I can't raise it, because both A and B checks were made a day before I got the plane. So, shouldn't those checks raise the condition, or at least give me the option to raise the condition?

Sami

was it reconfigured or something, or how the B was made 1 day before delivery?

Jps

No, not reconfigured. It was just a normal leasing order from the used market and delivery to be in 2 weeks, with no additional checks or reconfiguration.
in case you need the info, the plane's ID is 531 in Beta challenge:Europe.

Sami

okay, B was made 16th October 1985  and it's now 28th Oct ... there was a bug in the system allowing the B check to be performed too often, thus allowing the airline to cheat by making multiple b checks in a row (ie. one at monday, second at tuesday, third at wed .. etc). This wasn't the original intention so that was fixed, and you can perf. the B only if the previous B check is over 20 days old (or something in that range). The repair function should be used instead .. (however that may need some tuning pricewise)

Jps

Yeah, well, the whole point just was, that the checks were made without giving me any benefit, and now I also had to suffer a low-condition aircraft for a long time, because the checks were made. It would have been ok, if they had raised the condition, but they didn't do that either...

Talentz

Thank you Jp for the advice, however, you dont send any aircraft... much less a 747-300 on a 1x weekly trip during saturday to a new city-route pair.

No, thats how you lose money. Its cheaper for the aircraft to sit on the ground then paying the labor and fuel trying to squeeze hours in.


With that said, that not to say in the future, I wont be using the aircraft ever. I will indeed fill the open space. But, I'll worry about that when I get more planes  :P

However, since I only have 1 aircraft atm, Its quite pointless to send it somewhere on its B check day.

8)

Jps

Yeah, that's true :D
I usually have some 2 flights/day for each aircraft, and fly them daily, so on A check day, I just drop the other route off..
And I didn't mean to say you are doing wrong, just to give a general idea for the ne players of how it should look like.  ;)

Talentz

*Waves hands while laughing*

I didnt mean to sound ugly either. Probably worded it a bit wrong because I had just woke up before making that post   :-[







calibranr

I really think that`s not fair.

if we bought a used plane with a "low" clondition, about 60-60% we should be allowed to make a B check instead of "repair".

or, make the prices to repair an aircraft more accurate.


making a B check, we can rise considerably an AC Condition, something about 10% or more.... Spending about 500K.

But if u want to use the repair tool, you will spend much more money to repair that same 10% of the AC Condition.

So Sami, u think it`s correct? It should leaved the way it is?

Best regards

Jps

I think Sami just yesterday mentioned somewhere that the repair maintenance costs still need fixing... Can't find the post now, but if oyu scroll around the forums, you may find it  ;)

Sami