Route times

[JMatthews2]

Hi all

In my current world, a competitor has 10 flights on the same route at exactly the same time... if i was to put on flights throughout the day would i benifit as per real life or are sales just based on seats per day???

James  

[GDK]

So far the demand is per day and there is not difference whether you spread the flights throughout the day or putting all the flights at the same time.

[JMatthews2]

Not the answer I was looking for but thanks none the less! 

[ACfly]

So far the demand is per day and there is not difference whether you spread the flights throughout the day or putting all the flights at the same time.

But I thought a reading somewhere that a flight between midnight and 6 had lower demand.. Doesn't AWS take that into account?

[GDK]

But I thought a reading somewhere that a flight between midnight and 6 had lower demand.. Doesn't AWS take that into account?

Yes, 2300-0500 have low pax flow and any routes take off or landing in between this time will get a very low LF except long haul flight. Any time out of 2300-0500 is the same.

[ACfly]

Yes, 2300-0500 have low pax flow and any routes take off or landing in between this time will get a very low LF except long haul flight. Any time out of 2300-0500 is the same.

Hi GDK, what happens with Long Haul flights? I can understand possibly arrival may be ok, but would hate as a passenger to wait for a 3am flight Long Haul...

Everything else constant, are all long haul flight LF not impacted by 2300-0500 in AWS?

[GDK]

Well, nobody guarantee that. Many people say their LF on long haul is not affected, but some said affected too. And another thing is that the LF of long haul flight usually takes time to grow and you won't really know how it impacted the LF. For safe play, avoid 2300-0500 unless you got no other slots available.

[MCR247]

People keep saying 'Don't fly between 2300-0500', WHY THE HELL NOT??

That time is when I normally have A Checks scheduled on one day of the week.

But on other days, I fly all of my planes between that time. I mean some, obviously don't make profit, but some do. Not much. But profit.

[GDK]

People keep saying 'Don't fly between 2300-0500', WHY THE HELL NOT??

Because the ticket income from that route is not enough to cover the cost to run it. Staff, slots fee, landing fee, everything counts when you add a route. But of course there will be routes that the income is high enough to give you net profit, just not all routes.

[Zombie Slayer]

So far the demand is per day and there is not difference whether you spread the flights throughout the day or putting all the flights at the same time.

I have found that I will have higher load factors at othjer times of the day when a competitor loads up on early/late flights. Example is MFM-KHH in MT3 right now. Competitor has about 20 daily flights with 17 of them leaing MFM at 505, 510, or 515. I have flights spread out. My one early flight (530) does poorly, flights later in the day are running 90% + L/F.

Don