Saudi Arabia route demand question

Started by Cornishman, May 31, 2023, 11:23:34 PM

Cornishman

Hi Sami. In the AoF gameworld I have been playing out of Saudi Arabia for my first time and noticed something curious about route demand. The 3 main Saudi bases: RUH / JED / DMM are all normal I'd say, but the 4th base MED seems it might be missing some data ?

By the time we reach the 21st century, there's quite a decent demand for a small 737 / A220 size plane between most major bases around Europe and MED..... until you try to fly from MED to the UK. Then to me it was curious that there is a flat zero demand to LHR / LGW / BHX / MAN.... everywhere.  Then when I looked a bit harder... what seems to be the case is there's a decent / stable demand unless the destination is in the UCT(0) time-zone.  So curiously, Portugal is also a zero and so is Ireland.  I'd have thought at least the UK which has pretty good ties with Saudi Arabia IRL would have at least as good demand as France and Germany for example?

I'm just curious.... maybe you / others know better on this matter?
Jack

Mort

The issue I believe is not one of timezone, but length. The cutoff between Intl and Intl LH is 2400nm between different continents. (Think it is 3400nm within a continent).

I imagine that MED has absolutely no Intl LH demand anywhere at all, for example SYD, JFK, LAX etc would all have 0 too. NRT is some 5000nm away as well, so despite being both in Asia, as it is over the 3400nm cutoff, demand is possibly 0 too?

Might be worth checking demand to somewhere like Dhaka which is same continent, greater than 2400nm but less than 3400nm.

Cornishman

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Quote from: Mort on June 01, 2023, 03:20:14 PM

Might be worth checking demand to somewhere like Dhaka which is same continent, greater than 2400nm but less than 3400nm.

Top marks (I think) go to Mort -  As you can see below, I already have a very similar demand of #100pax served to Dhaka. I just tried that as a benchmark to routes in both Europe.... yup seems a zero for everything over 2400nm and same for Asia (same continent as my bases so anything over 3400 is zero. Well done mate.
J

Cornishman

Next question... What statistics about any base determine when a base grows out of this cut-off point of  "over 2400nm to other continents & over 3400 to my continent" ?

dmoose42

My understanding is that it's hard coded rather than dynamic.

JumboShrimp

Quote from: Cornishman on June 01, 2023, 09:00:05 PM
Next question... What statistics about any base determine when a base grows out of this cut-off point of  "over 2400nm to other continents & over 3400 to my continent" ?

That can only happen when the passenger demand model is switched to the new model similar to cargo.