The Return of the Supersonic

[Tsuneyoshi]

Who knows me here in the game, knows that I almost always use Concordes in my GWs.
And I almost always come here to show the results as a form of incentive, I want to see more people using the Supersonics.
This time, I got surprising results even for myself.
See below:

As you can see, my 2 Concordes are in the Top 2 most profitable aircraft, with the 1 having a profit far above the other planes. This result makes me very excited, and I hope it will serve as incentive for you too.
Give non-standard aircraft a chance, risk other planes, every aircraft can get good results, just look a little more carefully.

Enjoy! 

[Amelie090904]

Which game world is this? Would like to have a look!

[knobbygb]

What year is it? If it's VERY early eighties, fair enough, but if it's much later you should be comparing them with 767s rather than 707s. 300k-400k isn't a LOT of money! Well done anyway though. I might try some in my GW (2007) as I'm a bit bored and (as always) am NOT sticking to three fleets anyway.

[Tsuneyoshi]

Which game world is this? Would like to have a look!

The Age of Flight. xD

What year is it? If it's VERY early eighties, fair enough, but if it's much later you should be comparing them with 767s rather than 707s. 300k-400k isn't a LOT of money! Well done anyway though. I might try some in my GW (2007) as I'm a bit bored and (as always) am NOT sticking to three fleets anyway.

1975. I would try! Concordes are good. It's not my first time flying them so profitable. In my past GW, used to fly 20 Concordes.

[Cornishman]

I totally agree with Tsune .... just one BIG word of advice before newer players order up dozens of them ...    .... they need significantly longer runways (and T/A times) than most other planes. When establishing what routes you'd like to put them on, first check the destination (and your own) airports have long enough runways !

[Tsuneyoshi]

Flying 12 Concordes for a while, 10 of them, are on my top 10 most profitable aircrafts! I'm so excited!!! 

[RALLX]

Do you mind showing the Weekly Financial Estimate of one Concorde and one B707-320 for the same route DXB-DMK  ? I'm very curious to see how the numbers differ, especially the fuel cost.

[Tsuneyoshi]

Sorry for the bad edition, I'm s*** with it.
Below, the comparison:

Left: B707-320B
Right: Concorde

This one is the "worst" route for my Concordes for a while. The best actually are VHHK and LFPG.

[Cornishman]

Hey Tsuni - knowing that DXB has a very good level of F and C class demand, what pax. layout are you offering on these Concorde flights?

[RALLX]

Hmm... Interesting. Although the Concorde is generating higher profit, it has a lower profit margin.

[Fisher970]

Hmm... Interesting. Although the Concorde is generating higher profit, it has a lower profit margin.

2+ times the fuel burn will do that to you 

[Tsuneyoshi]

Hey Tsuni - knowing that DXB has a very good level of F and C class demand, what pax. layout are you offering on these Concorde flights?

In my opinion, DXB is not the best when we talk about F and C. However, I can get some good routes for it's range.
Actually, I'm flying 68/30/4 (HD for economic seats and standard for C and F).

[Tsuneyoshi]

Hmm... Interesting. Although the Concorde is generating higher profit, it has a lower profit margin.

Well... As I said, Bangkok is the worst route for a while and we are under a fuel crisis right now, so... Since I'm positive, I'm satisfied hahaha

[Tsuneyoshi]

Hello everyone!
Below, results of 1 Tu-144 flying.
*We are under a fuel spike right now!

[Cornishman]

    I TOOK  A  CHANCE             

I too am going to see if I can make 7 of these work for me (as a 4th fleet  ) on routes from Riyadh and Jeddah  ...  and with fuel heading for the $300 mark....   well it's a heavy gamble but I'm too intrigued not to give it a go.  They might end up making me money, probably more like they'll become very young members of a museum club... lets see 

[Tsuneyoshi]

What a great news!!!
I hope you enjoy! They are really really good!
Show me later your results.

*Don't forget to increase ticket's prices.

[Viscount Bailey]

    I TOOK  A  CHANCE             

I too am going to see if I can make 7 of these work for me (as a 4th fleet  ) on routes from Riyadh and Jeddah  ...  and with fuel heading for the $300 mark....   well it's a heavy gamble but I'm too intrigued not to give it a go.  They might end up making me money, probably more like they'll become very young members of a museum club... lets see 

How's it working out for you now?

[Cornishman]

Sadly - it's not been a great success.  I can fiddle and fiddle and fiddle endlessly with price increases and seat (F / C / Y) various capacities and sort of run them to break-even, but tbh  unless there is a change in that loooooooong debated topic that the penalties of having any 4th fleet come into play to an horrendous extent the second you add routes to 1 aircraft of a 4th fleet - well sadly I shan't bother trying again.  Concorde needs 3600nm runways so you're limited on where you can fly them under 3200nm routes, drinks about 4x the fuel of standard aircraft to carry only ~ 100 pax. and so in my humble opinion - these planes will always need to be in the "niche" un-penalised category if gamers are going to ever be bothered to any great extent. 

Again I state - this game needs to be able to have an un-penalised, yet somehow limited 4th fleet ability.  (If it were up to me I'd completely stop the penalisation of extended fleets but I know then whines and moans would quickly come in... --> "we need to prevent some airlines growing too big ... blah, blah", yes, yes... 

[Tsuneyoshi]

Sadly - it's not been a great success.  I can fiddle and fiddle and fiddle endlessly with price increases and seat (F / C / Y) various capacities and sort of run them to break-even, but tbh  unless there is a change in that loooooooong debated topic that the penalties of having any 4th fleet come into play to an horrendous extent the second you add routes to 1 aircraft of a 4th fleet - well sadly I shan't bother trying again.  Concorde needs 3600nm runways so you're limited on where you can fly them under 3200nm routes, drinks about 4x the fuel of standard aircraft to carry only ~ 100 pax. and so in my humble opinion - these planes will always need to be in the "niche" un-penalised category if gamers are going to ever be bothered to any great extent. 

Again I state - this game needs to be able to have an un-penalised, yet somehow limited 4th fleet ability.  (If it were up to me I'd completely stop the penalisation of extended fleets but I know then whines and moans would quickly come in... --> "we need to prevent some airlines growing too big ... blah, blah", yes, yes... 

Heeeey!!
Don't give up, I can give you some tips and suggestions. Are you interested in?
I will check your routes and then, tell you what would I do. Saudi Arabia is not bad at all. I've played there and used Tu-144 successfully.
Give it another chance

Sorry for my delay here!

[Cornishman]

Sorry Tsuni - I just can't be afford to play around with this any longer. It was fun, I can see how I probably could make average money eventually with a lot of effort - not this time around though. I gave it a try.