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Author Topic: Flights to 2 destinations  (Read 319 times)

Offline DanDan

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Flights to 2 destinations
« on: May 24, 2018, 11:16:09 AM »
Would be great, if one could make a flight to two different destinations. For example: AMS-BOG-CTG-AMS (yes, this is even currently a real flight). So that the demand, especially on long flights can be pooled together to fill a complete plane. Tickets would of course be only sold for travel between AMS and CTG as well as AMS and BOG (and return of course), but not between BOG and CTG.

Of course, a reduction of attractiveness to passengers in relation to direct flights should be made, since they would usually prefer faster flights (without stop). This type of routing is nowadays rather less common, but was quite frequent until about 20 years ago, and still exists on thinner long-distance routes.

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Re: Flights to 2 destinations
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2018, 12:04:47 PM »
There is this page in the manual - https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Manual/Routes/Freedoms/

Before the concept of bases was introduced, what you're suggesting is somewhat how it would work. You'd see them referred to as ABCBA routes. Not exactly the one way flow that you mention, but basically flying additional legs. Connecting traffic wasn't modeled, so you'd only sell tickets for AB, BC, CB and BA individually.  What ended up happening is everyone would turn LHR or other high demand airports into a psuedobase. For example, what I did in a Jet Age game based in ATL is every flight went ATL-XXX-LAX, effectively building a base at LAX even though that wasn't part of the game paradigm.

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Re: Flights to 2 destinations
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2018, 01:29:22 PM »
There is this page in the manual - https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Manual/Routes/Freedoms/

Before the concept of bases was introduced, what you're suggesting is somewhat how it would work. You'd see them referred to as ABCBA routes. Not exactly the one way flow that you mention, but basically flying additional legs. Connecting traffic wasn't modeled, so you'd only sell tickets for AB, BC, CB and BA individually.  What ended up happening is everyone would turn LHR or other high demand airports into a psuedobase. For example, what I did in a Jet Age game based in ATL is every flight went ATL-XXX-LAX, effectively building a base at LAX even though that wasn't part of the game paradigm.

I think it is not what Dandan means.

Dandan ask a system to maximise aircraft utilisation when you have two low demand routes from his own base.
In this case AMS-BOG and AMS-CTG. No passengers will be taken from BOG to CTG. So there isn't the problem you mentioned.

There are many LH routes that remain unserved due to low demand but that can be joined with another similar route.
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Offline wilian.souza2

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Re: Flights to 2 destinations
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2018, 02:05:13 PM »
Such a thing would be really great!

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Re: Flights to 2 destinations
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2018, 02:42:46 PM »
thanks luperco for putting my ideas into words  :) yes, thats what i mean:

the plane takes off in amsterdam, with passengers for bogota and cartagena (that are very close together, compared to the transatlantic route). the passengers for bogota leave the plane in bogota, and passengers for amsterdam board the plane; it continues to cartagena, the passengers from amsterdam to cartagena leave, and passengers for amsterdam board the plane. now the plane gets back to amsterdam, with passengers who boarded in bogota and cartagena.

no passengers board in bogota and disembark in cartagena.

optionally, it would also be a possibility to make a flight like: amsterdam-bogota-lima-bogota-amsterdam; reducing annoyance for the passengers between bogota and amsterdam, but maybe increasing the inconvenience for the passengers between lima and amsterdam. the whole idea of this would be, that planes can fly low demand routes more efficiently, plus, that on routes where refueling is necessary anyway, the refueling stop could be used for transporting passengers as well.

 

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