Hardest aircraft to make money with

Started by Antoine, March 20, 2018, 10:31:20 PM

Antoine

what's the hardest aircraft to make money but have you have been successful with.

Zobelle


raptorva

At a guess I would say probably the SSTs, both Concorde and Tu-144. There's a very narrow window of time in which you might be able to make a profit with these beautiful birds, provided you have the ideal base airport to fly them from. Beyond that, they're utterly worthless.


alexgv1

If you read the demotivator thread then you would believe the CRJ200  :laugh:
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)

Antoine

Good answers. I'd go for the IL-86. Tried once. Never again

Zobelle

Quote from: raptorva on March 21, 2018, 05:00:28 AM
At a guess I would say probably the SSTs, both Concorde and Tu-144. There's a very narrow window of time in which you might be able to make a profit with these beautiful birds, provided you have the ideal base airport to fly them from. Beyond that, they're utterly worthless.

At least one character has managed to make this frame profitable. How the hell they polished a "turd" into a Diamond is beyond me but yes these ships are VERY challenging to make profitable. If only the Concorde range was comparable to IRL (4,100nm) it'd be slightly more useful but at a max of 3,300nm and usable turn times of nearly 3hrs it's beyond difficult to make it work for any routes that require a tech stop making better time than a nonstop subsonic. And if your competition flies 762/3 just forget it.

wapp11

Quote from: Zobelle on March 20, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
Anything soviet.

There are a lot of decent Soviet a/c, sometimes they are even a better choice versus western a/c when considering purchase price and delivery time. Of course some are also horrendous.

yearofthecactus



gazzz0x2z

Depends on the era and circumstances. IL96 were profitable in GW3, as long as fuel was below 1000$, and as long as I kicked them out before the first D-Check. A330s are notably better, by far, but I wouldn't say they are impossible.

CRJ200 is worse than CRJ100 because it's notably costlier, for a very small fuel improvement. Though the recent speed upgrade(to match CRJ700's speed within the fleet group) makes them OK.

I had a lot of fun with IL12/14, despite them having half the capacity of CV440s, for similar operating costs, but as the IL96, better kick them out after a short use.

A380 is gushing cash as long as it's not attacked. Opposition makes it a bad plane, not the player using it.

Baade 152 seems tough to make money with. It's probably the only one "non-exotic" I would not touch in a company designed to make money. By exotic I mean the too big planes and the SSTs.

Antoine


jezbanks

Quote from: Zobelle on March 20, 2018, 10:44:49 PM
Anything soviet.

I'm making plenty of money with Antonov 140s and 148s thanks very much

Zobelle

Quote from: jezbanks on March 21, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
I'm making plenty of money with Antonov 140s and 148s thanks very much
But those are not soviet. They are Russian.

There is a difference.

deovrat

Quote from: Zobelle on March 22, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
But those are not soviet. They are Russian.

There is a difference.

Antonov were originally Soviet, before relocating to Kiev, Ukraine after WW II. ;)

Zobelle

When the wall fell, suddenly silly things like fuel economy and reliability became more than just trivial.

Oscjo290


wapp11

Quote from: jezbanks on March 21, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
I'm making plenty of money with Antonov 140s and 148s thanks very much

Had a large fleet of TU-134s once and they did very well for me.
Used a lot of AN-10s in a GW once.  Only for 5 years but were useful.

Amelie090904

The Tu-114 also used to be quite good in gw2. So I wouldn't generalize.

Personally I am with Obelix here. Anything below 20 seats, the supersonics...Baade, too. I once had major troubles running DC9 from small airports. The capacity was perfect, but since they are considered "large" it was a very expensive choice (running 3/4 bases, having "large" pilots, etc.). So even good aircrafts can be bad if used badly. There is just no generalization possible.

yearofthecactus

Sorry if I'm splitting hairs, but the question wasn't what's the hardest aircraft to make work, but the hardest to make work that someone has done successfully. A lot of suggestions here like Russian/Soviet aircraft fall into that category, but most on here don't.

spiff23

#19
O if you want to experience a ring of AWS hell, go and lease a few sets of 747SPs so you can start nonstop flights just in time for the 1980 fuel crisis.  If you just want to just touch the flame, buy them and do the same.

These make the 747-100/200 seem like child's play. :laugh:

btw, I've done both successfully the last two long world games...those darn nonstops to Japan.  Very happy days when you navigate out of the dark storm clouds into 1986 8)