Estimated daily passenger demand accuracy

Started by JumboShrimp, March 02, 2017, 05:28:24 PM

JumboShrimp

I propose a change in accuracy of the demand displayed on the demand screen be based on this formula:

(RI + Route strategies morale) / 2

There is absolutely no reason to have this randomness / inaccuracy in displaying demand on routes that our airlines have flown for year, decade or half of a century.

There is randomness in the number of passengers who show up to fly on a given day, which is fine.  But the demand screen should show the route demand with 100% accuracy after the route has been flown for the long time.

PS: the Event influenced demand value does not have this useless inaccuracy, BTW, it is steady between refreshes

PPS:  The player can still get the actual value free of the useless distortion by refreshing the screen 10 or 100 times and calculating the average.  But is there really any point of forcing the player to refresh the screen number of times?

NovemberCharlie

I think the effect of route image should not come in immediately.
A larger airline has room for error when opening new routes, but it would be killer for a small (new) airline to start a route with half the demand the player thought it would have.
e.g. a  route displaying 150 pax, at 0 RI and 100 morale, might also be a 75 pax route. If a newcomer wants to put a 738 on said route he wouldn't stand a chance...

Cheers

JumboShrimp

Quote from: NovemberCharlie on March 02, 2017, 07:34:07 PM
I think the effect of route image should not come in immediately.
A larger airline has room for error when opening new routes, but it would be killer for a small (new) airline to start a route with half the demand the player thought it would have.
e.g. a  route displaying 150 pax, at 0 RI and 100 morale, might also be a 75 pax route. If a newcomer wants to put a 738 on said route he wouldn't stand a chance...

Cheers

I am not talking about the Demand.  Meaning how many pax show up for your flights.

I am talking about the Estimated Demand page.  Which, in theory, comes from your market research.  We have the "Route Strategies" staff, which in theory does this market research for you, and that's where (in theory) the demand figures come from. 

Market research can be inaccurate, and when you are not yet flying the route, getting an inaccurate estimate of demand is fine.

But everything changes, once you are flying the route, once you have been flying the route a year+.  You know with 100% accuracy what the demand is.  So what I am proposing is that once you have been flying the route for a year+, the Estimated Demand screen gets rid of the system introduced inaccuracy / randomness, and instead reports 100% accurate demand (that the system stores).   Meaning you don't have to refresh the page 3,4,5 times to get a better idea.  You get it right on the first time (once RI=100).  No need to refresh the page.  Refresh would give you identical numbers.

NovemberCharlie

Quote from: JumboShrimp on March 02, 2017, 07:56:53 PM
Market research can be inaccurate, and when you are not yet flying the route, getting an inaccurate estimate of demand is fine.

Except if you are just starting. Using your formula a new airline should have an accuracy of 0+100/2 = 50%
This means a market research value of 150 pax per day could also mean 75 pax per day, at least the way I am understanding this.

Which is no problem if you are bigger, but I do think there needs to be a provision for new players.

JumboShrimp

Quote from: NovemberCharlie on March 02, 2017, 08:32:15 PM
Except if you are just starting. Using your formula a new airline should have an accuracy of 0+100/2 = 50%
This means a market research value of 150 pax per day could also mean 75 pax per day, at least the way I am understanding this.

Which is no problem if you are bigger, but I do think there needs to be a provision for new players.

That's fine.

Sami feels very strongly about this inaccuracy / randomness being there, that's why I left it there early on in my formula.

I feel strongly about getting rid of the inaccuracy later on, when RI=100, which to me is useless at that point.

JumboShrimp

So the formula could be:

(RI + 2 * Route Strategies Morale) / 3

or

(RI + 3 * Route Strategies Morale) / 4

NovemberCharlie

That sounds fine by me.

I agree that if your RI is 100, you should already be able to transport all passengers and thus have insight in the total demand.