Limited to 40 segments?!

[Ben]

I just ran into

"You cannot schedule this route to this aircraft since the maximum allowed daily frequency between two airports has been exceeded (max 40 flights per day).

This limitation is in force to allow fair competition and slot usage. Please use larger aircraft in this route segment to be able to carry the passengers."

I'm flying 727-200s on a route that is 197nm (which is not a too small plane type for that range!) and there is over 7k in pax.  What gives?  It's not like I can buy a few 747s just for this route due to the fleet types penalty...  Also isn't there a rule that limits you to 200% of passenger demand?!

I'm feeling boxed in by this rule as I don't think I'm being unreasonable in trying to supply close to 100% demand with a fairly large capacity plane...right now I'm serving about 80% of demand.

[Amelie090904]

Hmm, yes. I have experienced the same problem in the regional challenge (there were no aircraft bigger than ~100 seats). So what are we supposed to do if we fly Rio de Janeiro - Sao Paulo, Tokyo - Osaka, Tehran - Mashhad or similar routes? I had 40 ATR72 on a ~100NM route and couldnt fill the demand.

In your case it's even more extreme. The 727 is fairly large. Only way out would be A321, B757 or similar. That would likely fill the demand. Question is what's better in your particular case. Fill the demand no matter what or actually use "regional aircraft" that operate more efficiently while there is competition. You can run all fine with 727, 757 or A321 if you're alone. Imagine there'll be 2-3 other competitors using ATR, Q400 or even Ejets. Soon your profits will be gone. So it might be wise to actually use smaller types to prevent competition from stealing your profits. You may not grab 100% demand, but you'll be profitable even with competition coming around.

[LotusAirways]

This limitation is in force to allow fair competition and slot usage. Please use larger aircraft in this route segment to be able to carry the passengers.

An A321 can carry 220 pax in HD (which is ok for short routes). If not enough, you always have the possibility of using large carriers. You are most probably based in Japan, and it is normal to use 747s for domestic routes, both in the game and real life: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_747#747SR

The 40 segments rule does exactly what it says on the tin: limits slot hording + limits frequency bombing a competitor.

[Amelie090904]

Maybe that rule should be deactivated for the next regional challenge where the biggest aircraft possible has 120 seats (Fokker 120). Other than that I agree with you, though flying A320 or even 747 on short haul would be too risky for my personal taste. One competitor with ATR or Q400 and you're gone.

[Apalvaldr]

Interestingly, it is actually accurate. There have been a lot of slot restrictions between countries (less often airports). For example, there are only 14 weekly flights between Turkey and Poland, 7 for an airline from each country (it does not apply to charters tho). I wonder whether it would be better to implement such a rule in Airwaysim (instead of the current 200%). For example on routes longer than 2500NM with demand less than 200NM, a player would be able to operate once daily only. On routes shorter than 500NM with the same demand - three times per day. Just a thoughts, though.

[freshmore]

As long as it remains  1 per player not 1 slot for all players who can do that route, it's fine.

It's an interesting concept. However the 200% rule is to stop players giving a huge amount of oversupply which suppresses other players unfairly for a game. Besides, it's simply and easy to implement so I can't see that being go rid of and you would still need the 200% limit anyway to stop the huge oversupply. I can't see it being a worthwhile investment of development time.

[NovemberCharlie]

I currently operate out of SBSP and fly the massive route to SBRJ 38 times a day. Currently this equates to about 6100 seats/day on the 738 with standard seating. If at sime point I were to upgrade this to a -900ER (even with hd seating) I would only be able to garner about 7500 seats/day.

Given the fact that widebodies are out if the question due to SBRJs 1300m runway, does thus limit also apply on this route?