Too much business class?

Started by wapp11, December 26, 2016, 06:57:21 PM

wapp11

So whats the rule on business to econ seating ratio, or whatever ratio it is.  I'm messing around in a BW and configed a 739 wit all business but 6 seats of econ.  Did not fill a single seat of business on a route with plenty of demand.  Changed it to 72Y/65C and sell it all out.

[SC] - King Kong

It depends on the demand ofcourse.
But also on what the competition offers.

Furthermore you should not forget about the company image. Companies with very high images (90/100) have a higher ability to sell business class seats.

The last thing is the route image. This has to be maximum.

If all the above factors are correct (full company and route image), no competition, no tech stop on your route and with the right amount of business class seats you can full all. (till demand is satisfied ofcourse)


wapp11

That is not the question I'm asking.  There must be a point where an A/C has too many C seats.  I had it configured as 18Y/100C and sold 0 C seats, changed it to 72Y/65C and sell them all.  Here is a picture, you can see the break between days where it didn't fly while being reconfigured. 

schro

Unless you have a high ci and ri, you will want to have more Y seats than F+C as there's a "magic carpet" nerf baked in...

qunow

Quote from: schro on December 26, 2016, 08:44:04 PM
Unless you have a high ci and ri, you will want to have more Y seats than F+C as there's a "magic carpet" nerf baked in...
If you have 3 A300 deddicated to fly one route, 3 of them are all Y and the other is all C+F, would the restriction also apply?

schro

Quote from: qunow on December 28, 2016, 11:23:01 PM
If you have 3 A300 deddicated to fly one route, 3 of them are all Y and the other is all C+F, would the restriction also apply?

Probably as I suspect it was implemented on a per flight basis rather than route aggregate basis.

Talentz

Quote from: wapp11 on December 26, 2016, 07:39:52 PM
That is not the question I'm asking.  There must be a point where an A/C has too many C seats.  I had it configured as 18Y/100C and sold 0 C seats, changed it to 72Y/65C and sell them all.  Here is a picture, you can see the break between days where it didn't fly while being reconfigured.

Coming back to your original question, what was your RI at that point in the picture? Was it an established route (RI 100) or did you recently start the route and change your configuration?

The "Magic Carpet" rule changes Sami did pertained to route image (RI). Basically, it takes RI about a game year to reach 100 and you can only start bringing in more higher paying pax after it reaches 50+.

Im wondering if you hit that glass ceiling. RI 100 and a decent CI (70+), you should be able to draw at least 75% of your C pax demand. Absent of competition of course.


Talentz