How to cancel an aircraft lease which is on order?

Started by Jamie91, November 28, 2016, 08:38:35 PM

Jamie91

I have ordered an a/c which I cannot operate from my base due to rwy requirements. How do I cancel?

JumboShrimp

Depends.

If it is an order for a new aircraft and delivery is far away, it can be cancelled.

If it is new and you are too close to delivery, it cannot be cancelled.

If it is a lease order for a used aircraft, in cannot be cancelled.

BullRot

Hello everyone,

I'm just in some trouble and this is related to this topic.
I have a recent new airline, operating locally with EMB120 and SAAB and I was doing great and fast in 3 days.
Everything is working as expected even if taking risk.

So, I bought a E170 on 300k $ / month but with fleet commonality costs and very low revenue with it it is killing me at this stage of game.
So I cannot sell or give back this plane and I'm blocked with it. If I store it, from what I understand I will pay lease of course, but every other costs will dissapear?
Is that correct?

Thanks,
Dominik

qunow

Quote from: BullRot on March 19, 2017, 02:30:53 AM
Hello everyone,

I'm just in some trouble and this is related to this topic.
I have a recent new airline, operating locally with EMB120 and SAAB and I was doing great and fast in 3 days.
Everything is working as expected even if taking risk.

So, I bought a E170 on 300k $ / month but with fleet commonality costs and very low revenue with it it is killing me at this stage of game.
So I cannot sell or give back this plane and I'm blocked with it. If I store it, from what I understand I will pay lease of course, but every other costs will dissapear?
Is that correct?

Thanks,
Dominik
There is also a neglectible storage cost and that's it. You might also want to adjust the amount of staffing after adjustment. And you can give back your plane, but only after about 11% of the lease period you signed.

gazzz0x2z

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Quote from: BullRot on March 19, 2017, 02:30:53 AM(.../...)So, I bought a E170 (.../...)

qunow answered your question. Still, I had a look at your company, and here are a few things that you might keep in mind, for this game or another one :


  • You shall first use everything you have at its full potential. Don't go for a second fleet group as long as you can still open line for the first fleet group(hense your commonality problems). 3 fleet groups with just 9 planes is not
  • in the same vein, use everything in your current base before moving to another base. You have an opponent there, but still, some lines are not used to their full potential. Under 500NM, you can easily overload a little bit demand. It's perfectly possible - and healthy financially - to land a 58-seater in a 80 demand line where a 52-seater is already flying, like Kastrup or Kloten from Pyrzowice. You S2000 can fly up to 770NM safely, use them everywhere within that range. They rock.
  • As a rule of a thumb, it's better to buy new planes, not to lease them, and conversely, to lease old planes. Lease costs are proportional to the value of the aircraft, and the value decreases with age. Therefore, despite high maintenance costs, leasing a 20-years old plane is in fact sound economically. Not for long(the 24-years D-Check is usually a killer), but for a small company like yours, rotating frequently is not a problem. There are 10 S2000 on the used market right now, and they are not that old.
  • In the same vein, The best planes are absolutely horribly costly, especially in the 21st century. I'm speaking about the EJets, A320, B737NGs. Big bad evil players like me and my 48% of market share in CDG can afford those wonderful albeit costly machines. Small regional players can't. I've had a lot of success with A148 in my previous regional games. OK, I know, A148 is crap and E170 is wonderful. The difference in terms of cost is around 5% for a 500NM line, more than 15% for a 1500NM line. Still. I was poor, flying from small airports, without enough cash to buy E170. Leasing them would have killed me. I had enough cash, OTOH, to buy those dirt cheap A148. With 15k$ of weekly depreciation instead of 80k$ of weekly lease, who cares about the 5 extra k$ in maintenance and 15 extra k$ in petrol?

Bottom line : focus on your current excellent planes, fill everything you can with them, and even more, and don't dream for the best birds. Not yet. J928s are nearly as good as E190s, and clearly cheaper.

BullRot

Ok,

Thank You for a great explanation and very good advice. I'm still new to AirwaySim.
But learning fast, even if making still some mistakes sometimes.
For the EPKT that's why I choosed EMB-120 and S2000,  for the little cost and good capacity for routes avaible.
At first I was afraid sending them on the routes already taken even if there was still some demand.
I am making good results and finally I'm out on a little positive balance acount at the end of the months.
Even with my 300k$ lost on lease for unused plane finally.

I like the great community, in-game everyone is competing vs each other but in forums people takes their time to explain and help others.
That's very nice.



MRothschild

Quote from: BullRot on March 20, 2017, 12:53:29 PM
I like the great community, in-game everyone is competing vs each other but in forums people takes their time to explain and help others.
That's very nice.

100% agreed.  The more able competitors join our community, the more enjoyable it is for me.   Keep up the good work!