What is the point of alliance score

[[ATA] APB Airlines]

I know what it is but why have it. If you look at NAC and you were to look at the top two alliances i think most people would agree Sky Connect would be winning by a large margin. We have 3 times the aircraft as elite 4 times the routes. We control the top ten in Company value, passengers hauled, quarterly revenue. But yet we are currently ahead by only 10 points because they had a bunch just join going for max utilization. We have one airline with a -CV and that is because he is still new and it is a measly -5 million. They have four with much larger neg values. So i am just wondering what the point in having this alliance score.

[AndiD]

e-peen?

[Curse]

Alliance Score was introduced to made the Alliance Challenge, a special gameworld for Alliances, more interesting.

The problems and flaws of statistics and score system were written done many times, I myself wrote down very large postings about.


What's the conclusion?

Ignore it. To let the score system frustrate you hasn't any benefits.



At the end of the day the scoring system is as useless as alliances are.

[[ATA] APB Airlines]

Alliance Score was introduced to made the Alliance Challenge, a special gameworld for Alliances, more interesting.

The problems and flaws of statistics and score system were written done many times, I myself wrote down very large postings about.


What's the conclusion?

Ignore it. To let the score system frustrate you hasn't any benefits.

It is our only way to show we beat elite so they would have to change their description about never losing. Of course if they look at the reality of the game they would say they lost not matter what the score says. I am not really that upset about it.


At the end of the day the scoring system is as useless as alliances are.

[stevecree]

If SC win TomCat then I will be the first to congratulate you guys.  We really struggled in NAC as nobody wanted to join that world. We choose the only avenue open to our small airlines to score points. We'll just change our description to never been beaten in a full game. 

[Troxartas86]

In Soviet Union, negative alliance score is badge of honor! 

[esquireflyer]

You also make it sound like Elite has no one in the top 10, in the 3 specific categories that you listed, which is not true.

Elite has most of the top 10 in some other categories, but even in the categories you decided to focus on, Elite is at least represented.

Also, btw, SC is actually ~150 pts. ahead of Elite, not the 10 points you listed in your OP, so the scoring system is not necessarily broken based on SC being "not ahead by enough."  

We also don't have four airlines with "much larger negative values" than the -$5 million you described for your player. At most we may have one airline with a "much" larger negative value, but the others (which are new airlines like your member) are only slightly more negative than -$5 million.

At the end of the day though, if you think alliance score serves no purpose (per your thread title), why worry about not being ahead by "enough" in a pointless metric? 

[[ATA] APB Airlines]

You also make it sound like Elite has no one in the top 10, in the 3 specific categories that you listed, which is not true.

Elite has most of the top 10 in some other categories, but even in the categories you decided to focus on, Elite is at least represented.

Also, btw, SC is actually ~150 pts. ahead of Elite, not the 10 points you listed in your OP, so the scoring system is not necessarily broken based on SC being "not ahead by enough."  

We also don't have four airlines with "much larger negative values" than the -$5 million you described for your player. At most we may have one airline with a "much" larger negative value, but the others (which are new airlines like your member) are only slightly more negative than -$5 million.

At the end of the day though, if you think alliance score serves no purpose (per your thread title), why worry about not being ahead by "enough" in a pointless metric? 

At the time of the OP we were only ahead by 10 points and then it jumped to 200 points with in a few days. Maybe it was a glitch. I only said we are dominating the above stats i know you are in top 10 in those stats. You have also had 2 or 3 of the neg airlines i talked about BK. I just want to make sure Elite has to change there never lost in a game world.

[stevecree]

I just want to make sure Elite has to change there never lost in a game world.

I agree with you Tomcat, so have changed it already as your lookin good in NAC   

[esquireflyer]

At the time of the OP we were only ahead by 10 points and then it jumped to 200 points with in a few days. Maybe it was a glitch.

I checked when you wrote it (or as soon as I saw it), but I never saw the score be within 10 points. Only the star rating was within 10% (as far as I could see), but not the alliance score.

We've only had one player BK in the last week or so, so there were never 3-4 players with "much more negative" values than -$5 mil. Other than the one who BKed, the other ones below -$5M were all in the -$7M to -$10M range as they were just starting out. Oddly, however, it seems that CV is not counted in alliance score at all.

[stevecree]

CV is not a factor in alliance score I do not think, although I feel it should be.  When I looked the gap was exactly 110...co-incidental Tomcat mistook it for 10 ?

[brique]

As I understand it, some categories only score if you are in top50 for it ; so a member moving up and/or down around the 50 position will affect things.

[stevecree]

Yep, correct Birque, I think its actually a top percentage that scores, like top 10% (or is it 20% I forget) , but as Esquire points out oddly CV is not one of those categories.

[JumboShrimp]

Yep, correct Birque, I think its actually a top percentage that scores, like top 10% (or is it 20% I forget) , but as Esquire points out oddly CV is not one of those categories.

Yeah, it is a percentage.  As a result, total variable score and also which position is a "scoring" position depends on number of airlines in the game...

[brique]

Ah, thanks for enlightenment : I saw the top50 thing referenced in a thread about new/small airlines tending to have top punctuality scores unbalancing things: perhaps it was that 10% of that games players was around 50 so might be why that figure got mentioned...

Does seem odd that CV doesn't count, but no doubt Sami has his reasons for that.

[lilius]

What is the source of CV not being counted in the score?

[schro]

What is the source of CV not being counted in the score?

Manual - https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Manual/Others/Alliances/#Score

[stevecree]

In Sami's very own words....  "The aim is to not to measure how large the airlines are but to measure how well they are managed "

[swiftus27]

"This bickering is pointless.  Vader, release him."

[lilius]

Manual - https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Manual/Others/Alliances/#Score

Thanks!