Airlines using realworld names / logos - Report here

Started by Sami, January 20, 2009, 10:00:58 AM



Maarten Otto

Here we go again... Why do some people never read the terms and conditions....

Airliner in Euro Challenge at DG :
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline502/

Real airliner:
http://www.kalittaair.com/

Maarten Otto

Unbelievable even in The Early days we have one:

British Scareways https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline84

I think everyone will understand it looks a bit like BA

slannoy

In early days also:

Transportes Aereos Portugas
In real:
Transportes Aereos Portugal (TAP)
TAP

If we google the name it is obvious

http://www.google.be/search?q=Transportes+Aereos+Portugas

Maarten Otto


Sami



Tujue

Quote from: swiftus27 on January 26, 2010, 03:15:07 PM
Im sorry, Phuket Air is different from Air Phuket?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phuket_Air

Eazyjet is also different from Easyjet ;) But still it is recognizeable
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TFC1

Novair in the Modern Times #1

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline3449/

Novair in the real world, is owned by Kuoni Travel, and operates charter flights from Scandinavia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novair .

Filippo

Lifthnsa  :o  :o in the Modern Times 1

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline3523/

I think it looks/sounds a bit too much like Lufthansa




Dookz

#294
I guess its safe if someone uses Air "country name" and the only airline that comes close to its name is one with "country name" airlines because there are real world airlines that use similar names but are two completely different airline like Air Philippines and Philippine Airlines for example.



In -Beginner World 5
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline27
PanAmerican . Also using its real logo.

knutm1980

Quote from: Dookz on February 09, 2010, 08:06:45 AM
I guess its safe if someone uses Air "country name" and the only airline that comes close to its name is one with "country name" airlines because there are real world airlines that use similar names but are two completely different airline like Air Philippines and Philippine Airlines for example.



In -Beginner World 5
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline27
PanAmerican . Also using its real logo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Railways

like this?

ekaneti

Quote from: ucfknightryan on February 09, 2010, 07:09:46 AM
Ah, a new game and new people who either don't know about the real airline and don't think to make use of google, or who think the rules don't apply to them.  :laugh:

Braniff:
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline258
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braniff_International_Airways

British Overseas: (not sure if this one counts since it's not quite complete)
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline265
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Overseas_Airways_Corporation

Empire Airlines:
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline271
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empires_Airlines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_Airlines_%281976-1985%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_Airlines

Swiss International Airlines: (unless Airlines doesn't count as the same as Air Lines)
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline233
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_International_Air_Lines


I am pretty certain Empire isnt copywritten. Since Empire was bought by Piedmont in 1985, the name has been used with an airline in Idaho in the 1990s. The problem is with COPYWRITTEN names, not simply names of airlines that at one time existed. For instance Ozark which was bought by TWA in 1986 was ressurected with no problems in 2000 even with the same logo.

ucfknightryan

Three points:

1.  Names would be covered by trademark, not copyright law. 

2.  Trademarks do not pass irrevocably into the public domain, unlike copyright they can be re-registered by a new party if the protection lapses.  Therefore, just because another airline is using the name doesn't mean that it's not under trademark protection.  The rights could have been sold in the bankruptcy of the previous airline, or if it did indeed lapse, could then be trademarked by the new airline.  There is an airline currently operating under the Empire Airlines, and I doubt that they've failed to trademark their name.

3.  The notice when creating your airline does not say "Do not use trademarked names", it says "Name of your airline can not contain names of realworld airlines"

Actually I just found a fourth point.

4.  When Ozark was restarted, they had no problems because they purchased the rights, probably from TWA.

Tobseren

OBVIOUS:

Norwegian Air Shuttle ASA in The Rise Of The Modern Airliners 1!!! Just created!

ekaneti

The name Empire isnt a trademark, their logo would be. The name Empire would be a copywrite. "Real world Airline" could be any name. 1000s of airlines have existed since 1920s. Obviously United, American, Air France, Pan Am etc would be not allowed. But how about

Central Airlines?
McClain?
Air New England?
Mid America?
Great Plains?
Air 1?
Imperial?
Wilbur's Flying Service?

Some of these are a lot bigger than Emipire IATA UR ever was.

Are players suppose to be aware of every two bit carrier from 1920???