Airlines using realworld names / logos - Report here

[toyotaboy95]

I got ya

But, if he has in fact changed his feelings on that I would be more than happy to work it out. I'm just a little peeved about toyotaboy being overzealous about this. Especially with me being active enough to where he could message me about it before tattling on here.

...im not overzealous..just tryin to enforce the rule

[jagalubnan]

But, if he has in fact changed his feelings on that I would be more than happy to work it out. I'm just a little peeved about toyotaboy being overzealous about this. Especially with me being active enough to where he could message me about it before tattling on here.

He wasn't "tattling", users are required to post here airlines that they find in violation of that rule. If you've worked something out with Sami, it's not like he knows about this.

[Southsky]

...im not overzealous..just tryin to enforce the rule

No problem man... just p***ed that the Skybus guy decided to run another airline into the ground. 

He wasn't "tattling", users are required to post here airlines that they find in violation of that rule. If you've worked something out with Sami, it's not like he knows about this.

cool beans

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I'm just a little p***ed that a restarted real life airline could reset an airline into which I've poured hours of work.

[toyotaboy95]

^ u dun need to start all over again. just tell sami the problem (in this case, airline name) and he should be able to change the airline name for you, free of charge and without doing anything to ur fleet/company image etc., since it isn't ur fault for having the same name.

[Sami]

IMHO there's no need to rebrand the Jet America airline here .. as he didn't know about that startup which was just launched. My opinion is that play this game till it's end and then use another name in next games.

[Dasha]

They're only Americans... what's the worst they could do to you? Sue you and throw huge Whopper menu's at you? *yawn*

[juanchopancho]

Usually it comes in the form of a Cease & Desist letter and/or email. Then Sami would have a hissy fit.

[ekaneti]

Well, it WAS a real airline (with MD80s and everything)...  And is about to be again.  The guy that ran Skybus is starting up another airline, and sure enough, it's going to be called "Jet America." 



(Look it up!  Google it!  Yahoo it!  True story!)

The fact that ex-SkyBus is able to use the name again shows the name Jet America wasnt trademarked and not owned by Alaska who bought the original Jet America in 1986. What matters is whether or not the name is a trademark

[jamboy2378]

They're only Americans... what's the worst they could do to you? Sue you and throw huge Whopper menu's at you? *yawn*

I guess the worst thing Americans could do is to get mail-order Russian brides. Who would then become addicted to Whoppers

[bigdogshark62]

The fact that ex-SkyBus is able to use the name again shows the name Jet America wasnt trademarked and not owned by Alaska who bought the original Jet America in 1986. What matters is whether or not the name is a trademark

Okay, according to Trademark law as I read it, trademarks prior to November 1989 are valid for 20 years (after 11/89, it's 10 years).  So it's likely that Alaska DID own the trademark, but let it lapse as it made no sense to renew it at the time.

I guess this is a good rule of thumb if you want to use the name of an airline that used to exist in the real world.  If the airline went under more than 20 years ago, then you SHOULD be okay (unless the airline that takes them over keeps the name running, like US Airways with Piedmont, PSA, etc.; that's the gray area). 

They're only Americans... what's the worst they could do to you? Sue you and throw huge Whopper menu's at you? *yawn*

Watch out, or I'll spill piping hot McDonalds coffee on you.  I hear it hurts, a lot...   

[juanchopancho]

Sami doesn't seem too worried about it and he shouldn't. It would be hard for a law firm protecting any mark to make the case that the use of the mark on this website is causing dilution and confusion.  Completely different trade channels, obviously this site is not a real airline, etc, etc.

[ekaneti]

Okay, according to Trademark law as I read it, trademarks prior to November 1989 are valid for 20 years (after 11/89, it's 10 years).  So it's likely that Alaska DID own the trademark, but let it lapse as it made no sense to renew it at the time.

I guess this is a good rule of thumb if you want to use the name of an airline that used to exist in the real world.  If the airline went under more than 20 years ago, then you SHOULD be okay (unless the airline that takes them over keeps the name running, like US Airways with Piedmont, PSA, etc.; that's the gray area). 

Watch out, or I'll spill piping hot McDonalds coffee on you.  I hear it hurts, a lot...   

WOW!!! So that means the guy using Eastern Airlines is ok. Ozark would be interesting since in 1999 or so a "new" Ozark was formed flying Dornier 328 Jets

[samsaunders85]

Canadian Airlines was abosrbed by Air Canada years ago.... There is nothing wrong with using it.

That was my airline and my reasoning. Thanks Seattle!!

[MRFREAK]

I was wondering.

Here in Denmark and Scandinavia, we had an Airline called Sterling, but i got broke, but got bought by Cimber Air, so now it ended up in a Fusion called Cimber Air - Sterling, does it still violate the rules or what?

Sincerly
Mr.Freak

[Sami]

Its still a question if that is a trademark or not. And Sterling still is..

[Ragman3000]

CITYJET has just started up an airline on here.
They are an Irish airline in reality.
Please Delete

[FlorianF]

ATB - Aviapartner. Not an airline, but baggage/cargo handler. He is using both the name and logo. http://www.aviapartner.aero/eng/ and https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Others/Airline1159/

[shadoweye]

Is Freedom Airline trademarked? i googled it and i couldnt find the airline currently. It looked like it existed 5-10 years ago.

[Sami]

Well if a simple Google search doesn't give you anything, you shouldn't be worried...

[bigdogshark62]

Is Freedom Airline trademarked? i googled it and i couldnt find the airline currently. It looked like it existed 5-10 years ago.

Ah, good ol' Freedom Air, a subsidiary of Air NZ...  Flew them a couple times from AKL to CHC.  Good stuff. 

As for right now, Freedom Airlines is a real airline, a subsidiary of Mesa Air, and currently doing business as Delta Connection:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Airlines

Don't know how long they'll be around, though.