Passengers Fees...

[elitemedia]

Hi everyone,

I have just a small question, in real life arent the passengers fees an extra income for airlines ? Because in the game its a charge.... does anyone have a clue on this ?

Regards
Georges

[Sami]

They are the airport fees that airports charge (ie. fee for using the facilities, and nowadays some ridiculous security fees and others too, also called taxes). Same for navigation and landing fees ..

It can be around ~20-60 eur per pax today depending on route, and airport etc.

[elitemedia]

I know about airport fees, but airlines always have charged them to the passengers (and separeted from the fight price) and even make money from it.... 

[Sami]

Passenger buys a ticket from you at $100 let's say... and that price includes the transportation service and all the fees/taxes etc what the airline must deposit to the authorities.

[Jps]

I think the most cheapest flights some low-cost airlines are offering have the price without these airport fees, which will then be included in the bill? Like a ticket from EFHK to some European city can cost only some 20€ in marketing?

[Sami]

Well nothing forbids in selling the tickets for less than your expenses actually are.. And I think the airlines SHOULD market the total price (ie. no hidden fees) but all (especially RyanAir) don't do that.

[elitemedia]

Well in reality all airlines advertise prices without airport taxes, only in European Community and since 2 years it became forbiden to do so, in fact now all airlines operating in the european community are obliged to advertise the final price including all airport taxes and fees.

[Stormy86]

Indeed! the wise guys at Ryanair always know how to get through the back door...  In any case, they are the best airline I have ever flown! Best punctuality, fewer cancellations, fewer lost bags and cheapest! And if you are also wise, you know perfectly how to avoid paying for anything else (booking with a visa electron, check-in online, carrying only hand luggage, etc)

[FCNekke]

Indeed! the wise guys at Ryanair always know how to get through the back door...  In any case, they are the best airline I have ever flown! Best punctuality, fewer cancellations, fewer lost bags and cheapest! And if you are also wise, you know perfectly how to avoid paying for anything else (booking with a visa electron, check-in online, carrying only hand luggage, etc)

Ryanair has a fairly new fleet! What will happen when the planes get older???

[atlflytguy]

IS there any way to determine the pax fee on this game?  I was curious just how much money I am making on a ticket.  When I am setting ticket prices (I am just starting out so I have to have lower tix $$ to attract pax) I would like to know just how much I am making on the ticket after I deduct slot fees, pax fees, etc.

Thanks,  Allen
SkyNational

[Sami]

IS there any way to determine the pax fee on this game?

They are not visible to players at the moment, but I'm adding them perhaps at some point.

[samomuransky]

Indeed! the wise guys at Ryanair always know how to get through the back door...  In any case, they are the best airline I have ever flown! Best punctuality, fewer cancellations, fewer lost bags and cheapest! And if you are also wise, you know perfectly how to avoid paying for anything else (booking with a visa electron, check-in online, carrying only hand luggage, etc)

Well, if you are happy to seat with no legroom, then maybe yes. I prefer Air Berlin Group (airberlin & NIKI), they also have great prices - many times comparable with Ryanair - but offers you complimentary meal, drink, nice legroom, baggage, friendly and proffesional staff and you don't have to worry that somebody will destroy you hand luggage when he'll try to put his carryon to overhead bin. Plus they have great FFP.

And they are cancelling VISA Electron for free (yes, MasterCard Prepaid will be free, but it's hard to get it here, there isn't any bank which is issuing it). I'm not gonna pay another 5 EUR per passenger for stupid card fee.

[EYguy]

According to what I studied in the last years at the university, the pax fees (or airport fees) vary from apo to apo. This is why Ryanair is able to offero lower prices than other airlines: they travel to "low cost airports" (in 95% of their destinations) and so they have less expensive pax/apo fees.
Moreover, european airlines are forbidden to sell tickets "under the costs" unless in some cases (I do not remember which they are!). Anyway, I think that could be useful to indicate in the apo information screen how much will be the "pax fees". This is why Qatar Airways flyes to both LHR and LGW: apo/pax fees at LGW are much lower than at LHR and they can gather more pax on the "low cost demand". And usually the flights flying to LHR go on to JFK or EWR ( do not remember where I flew in).

[ekaneti]

I know about airport fees, but airlines always have charged them to the passengers (and separeted from the fight price) and even make money from it.... 

Then consider the fees to already be included in the ticket price you are charging. Airlines do not make money off PFCs (passenger facility charges).