Pax calculation script updated

Started by Sami, January 17, 2009, 02:19:11 AM

Sami

Due to a discovered bug I rewrote (many) parts of the passenger distribution script. The actual bug was in route image which was not modeled properly in all cases, and while I had the file open I improved and checked the system otherwise too, so it's largely rewritten from that part.

What you expect to see is:
- traffic using small (<50pax) planes should be profitable
- overall LF raises for everyone (with well established routes) as the route image bug was cleared
- if you start a new route to a destination with a big demand and no competition, you can expect almost full planes straight from the start
- sorts also the issues with route image not working properly even you have 100% route image, and issues with having big and small planes on the same route
- the overall result to all airlines should be positive, but later on some expenses may be tuned higher not to make it too easy .. but anyway, it should work now more or less like it was originally intended.

I've been working this for the last 2-3 days so there may be errors in the system. Let me know then...


Talentz

Wow.. I sense this could be a big change in theories sami..

Quoteif you start a new route to a destination with a big demand and no competition, you can expect almost full planes straight from the start

Hmmm this will help growth. No longer having to sweat out 6months of low mid 50s LF %.

Quotesorts also the issues with route image not working properly even you have 100% route image, and issues with having big and small planes on the same route


So.. by this, the theory of using smaller aircraft to attack larger aircraft wont hold any more?   Example: 3x CRJ vs 1x 757 on a 200 daily pax route.

Currently, CRJs will have higher LF % vs a 757.. thus, making the 757 lose money flying the route. Route image 100 or not..

This could change the playing field...


Talentz

JJP

Thanks, Sami.  That sounds awesome!  :)

I just opened a new route from Boston to Dallas in Sim 1.  No competition.  

BOS to DFW: 44% load

DFW to BOS: 0% load   ???

Route demand: ~900 passengers per day.
My capacity: ~200 passengers per day.

Thanks!

Sami

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Quote from: JJP on January 17, 2009, 02:39:15 AM
BOS to DFW: 44% load
DFW to BOS: 0% load

Cannot see that. Route 019 is doing 46%/42% and route 021 was canceled yesterday.

(though was expecting a higher loadfactor for the route as it has so big demand ... but let's see .. it should raise over to 100% over 6 months, if not even faster)

--> some sleep now ..

JJP

Ok, thanks.  I did not see the flight cancellation for weather. 

So, I understand the load starting out that low, but shouldn't it raise very quickly?  'course, what's the defintion of quickly?  Mine would be 1 or 2 months!   ;D

Thanks!

Talentz

Oh it worked sami. I have seen the first day's results...it works  ;)


Night busy bee  ;D

Athriaxo

Nice one ive been waiting for this! Think im gonna restart my airline now since its 8 million in the reds its no use trying to keep it alive ...

jagalubnan


Echoco

This is great sami, very quick response fixing the problem. Thank you

Dazwalsh

WOAH! my load factors comapny wide have increased, 7% Y and 10% C! i had an ATR make 60,000 in profit one of the days!

Thanks Sami, we all appreciate your continued effort ;)

john_bradley

its so much better now.... my routes have much higher LF from now... Great fix...

jagalubnan

Question: Anyone experience a decrease in C LF?

Richard9741

not sure if it's related but the demand on a couple of my routes dropped like a stone. 
e.g.
SIN-DMK went from a health 60% in Y to 15% on around 26th april (there's some competition but still loads of demand) 
Also SIN-MNL - went from 50 to 24%. 

May just be a competitor pricing aggressively but was surprised at the slump... 

Btw, does seat style have any affect of demand yet?  These planes are HD. 

Idioteque

Quote from: trickster69 on January 17, 2009, 04:48:14 AM
not sure if it's related but the demand on a couple of my routes dropped like a stone. 
e.g.
SIN-DMK went from a health 60% in Y to 15% on around 26th april (there's some competition but still loads of demand) 
Also SIN-MNL - went from 50 to 24%. 

May just be a competitor pricing aggressively but was surprised at the slump... 

Btw, does seat style have any affect of demand yet?  These planes are HD. 

I was just gonna ask anyone if their LF drop instead... well... mine certainly did... whatever tweak you did Sami almost always affects me in a negative way... am I playing the game wrongly or just coincidentally "taking advantage" of the said bug?
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Richard9741

Most of my routes are fine - it's just some of the newer, short haul ones that seem to be affected. 

It also doesn't appear to behave consistently - I have two brand new routes, no competition, similar demand and the same plane/config:

SIN-SZX - 70-80% across Y & C.  vs...
SiN-CTU - 40% Y, 16% C. 

Route image seems to play a part, but I have a couple of reasonably well established routes affected badly and some new ones that have big demand.  I just can't identify what's making the difference. 

CX717

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same here
SIN-BKK Y class drop from 7X% to 3X%...
SIN-ICN Y/C Class drop from 6X% to 3X%

Idioteque

Sami care to explain the mechanism behind the new update so I can get my way around this issue?

Just to point out 2 routes that are affected badly and they both have 100 Route Image... Both of these are operated by an A313 and there's ample demand left. LF dropped from 80ish% to 50 ish%

ASR001/002 LIRF-EGLL vv flight departs at 0800h
ASR015/016 LIRF-LFPG vv flight departs at 1645h

Don't even let me begin with midnight flights...
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tofen

Damn, this was quite a change.
Just opened a new route and got 95% LF the next day  :o.

Nearly all of my routes has over 90% LF now, a jump from 50-60%.
Maybe you made it to easy for us  ;).

jagalubnan

Quote from: tofen on January 17, 2009, 09:27:59 AM
Damn, this was quite a change.
Just opened a new route and got 95% LF the next day  :o.

Nearly all of my routes has over 90% LF now, a jump from 50-60%.
Maybe you made it to easy for us  ;).


I think that it's because you operate a smaller sized fleet, in terms of pax per plane.