Pax calculation script updated

[Teemu]

Thanks Sami it's now working well for me at least

[estair]

Yes a lot better now But i still have one question:

ARN - SSH   0610-1235
SSH - ARN   1400-1825
Days: 1234567

When i fly to SSH LF is 90%, but back to ARN is only 35%. Why is the difference so big?

[Sami]

The route demand back seems to be some 300 pax different ..... Which is strange.

[Kastor]

Maybe this is problem of advertisement ? If you don't have a wide range marketing people at the destination of your flight don't know about you, thus you have poor returning flight LF ?

[Monk Xion]

I was going to say! I'm making 500k a week on four routes with two aircraft LOL

[Richard9741]

Seems to be working well for me now...demand is up again. 

[Dazwalsh]

sorry to be a party pooper here but perhaps its now too easy? i am putting my prices up left right and centre and the load factors continue to rise, perhaps there can be further additions to fees for each flight.

Heres what i have in mind, catering fees for Business class (and economy class if in standard config). ancillary items like headphones blankets and pillows and all that rubbish, IFE installation fees on the config screen. This will help the start up airlines as they will not have to fork out for these fees if their aircraft are economy only. and help towards restricting the tremendous expansion of bigger airlines (Myself included)

[elitemedia]

sorry to be a party pooper here but perhaps its now too easy? i am putting my prices up left right and centre and the load factors continue to rise, perhaps there can be further additions to fees for each flight.

Lucky you, wait untill some competitors will come to pump up onto your most profitable routes....  , i can assure you that i can not raise my prices like this on routes where i have to face competition... 

[Dazwalsh]

oh this has already happened but i like challenges

[Sami]

Yep like mentioned the expenses may need some re-tuning now.

[Kastor]

Yep like mentioned the expenses may need some re-tuning now.

By the way please do something about general marketing cost to be more fixed than linear.

[Richard9741]

sorry to be a party pooper here but perhaps its now too easy?

Think you're right - it's gone from one extreme to another!  I think the concept of the first change was right - just needed tweaking to get the consistency.  The second change seems to have given most of my routes, even with low route image, 80%+ L/F. 

[Jps]

When discussing about difficulty, remember, that you all used to have a hard time to even make profit. Because of that, you all needed to tweak the routes to give the best profit possible. Now, with this new update which instantly hugely raised the LF's, it may feel very easy. But, remember, that if you had had it like this in the first place, you wouldn't have tweaked the routes so much, so it's possible that in next games it's not that easy anymore... 

[masoniclight]

AWESOME.. as usual Sami!

As for the game getting easier.. to all you other posters.. ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING? I've filed bankruptcy 5 times in two games no matter what strategy I was using.. couldn't turn a profit.. now my Airlines (Grand Masonic Airlines if you are curious) is ALMOST making a profit here in Dec of 1992.. ALMOST.. I welcome the LF change, maybe now I can finally have a company that is profitable... sheesh.. I love this game but until this change, I was wondering if I was ever going to have at least one successful company..

thanks again Sami for the changes.. it really helps!

[Idioteque]

sorry to be a party pooper here but perhaps its now too easy? i am putting my prices up left right and centre and the load factors continue to rise, perhaps there can be further additions to fees for each flight.

Heres what i have in mind, catering fees for Business class (and economy class if in standard config). ancillary items like headphones blankets and pillows and all that rubbish, IFE installation fees on the config screen. This will help the start up airlines as they will not have to fork out for these fees if their aircraft are economy only. and help towards restricting the tremendous expansion of bigger airlines (Myself included)

Are those already established routes or you just started them? Any competitors on said routes? Small or large aircraft? Mind sharing?

[kados]

Sami, are you tinkering with the pax load again? My LF on at least 50% of my routes have dropped from 93% to 0%. 

[JJP]

Hello Sami,

I opened a new route (no competition) and immediately received ~85% load.  After about 1 game day, it dipped back to ~50% and since has stayed at that level (even after lowering my price).  Now, I understand that my route image is nearly non-existent, but why would the load factor have started so high and immediately dipped?

I had other new routes that I opened with no competition that stayed with relatively high load factors from the beginning (~75%).  I wonder why this instance would be so different.

Thanks!

[toyotaboy95]

sorry for bringing back this thread

I proposed a change to the demand model which is used to calculate load factors. Several factors should be taken into account, including city demand (already), frequencies offered (already), amenities (future, or **seating configuration <=MAJOR one, should have more effect**) offered, possible connecting passengers (to your own airline's flights), flight duration and departure/arrival times (already), and fares (already). Once daily frequencies are offered between two cities pairs increases, the demand will increase in an to a certain extent, where the additional bookings drops off for every flight added (modelled into the game, but currently only rises due to low fares).