1.3 Open Testing scenario feedback & discussion thread

[Monk Xion]

Just thought of something to ponder. What do you guys think is the ammount of a/c that you need to make signing a fuel contract worthwhile? (or type , number of routes ,etc).

I was just thinking about this after I signed a contract. I have a bunch of A300's, with more coming and some Dash 8-300B's on the way too.

Idk just something to think about for strategy further on.

[schro]

Just thought of something to ponder. What do you guys think is the ammount of a/c that you need to make signing a fuel contract worthwhile? (or type , number of routes ,etc).

I was just thinking about this after I signed a contract. I have a bunch of A300's, with more coming and some Dash 8-300B's on the way too.

Idk just something to think about for strategy further on.

I think it is difficult to quantify, but as a rough estimate, if you divide your weekly fuel costs in half and figure the discount, determine whether the amount saved is greater than what you pay...

In this scenario, i've got a bunch of 747s flying during a fuel spike and i'm spending 8 million per week in fuel. One of the suppliers is offering a 6.6% discount for 174k, so in theory, i'd save 100k going with that unless fuel prices came down a bit, then i'd lose my cost advantage.

[Monk Xion]

I think it is difficult to quantify, but as a rough estimate, if you divide your weekly fuel costs in half and figure the discount, determine whether the amount saved is greater than what you pay...

In this scenario, i've got a bunch of 747s flying during a fuel spike and i'm spending 8 million per week in fuel. One of the suppliers is offering a 6.6% discount for 174k, so in theory, i'd save 100k going with that unless fuel prices came down a bit, then i'd lose my cost advantage.

Interesting. Another question... If you are based In San Juan , Puerto Rico ; can you open up a base on the Mainland? I know this has been debated many times and you can base in PR if you are a US airline... but has this been fixed in 1.3?

[FlyTO]

I was wondering where it was mentioned about the removal of the basing restriction where you can now open a second base at a top 20 airport and there is no longer a 70plane limit.

Is this true? Thanks.

[slither360]

I was wondering where it was mentioned about the removal of the basing restriction where you can now open a second base at a top 20 airport and there is no longer a 70plane limit.


Is this true? Thanks.

Yes, no top 20 limit, no, still 70 a/c limit.

[flyboy842]

yes, it works from Haneda to sapporo or fukuoka with 15 minutes interval. LF between 75-85%. It confirms Sami's notes that route with 4000 pax/day or more should doing well with 15 minutes intervals and route with 2000 pax/day needs 35 minutes intervals.

T. Wong

Can someone confirm if this is the case?

[Curse]

I was wondering where it was mentioned about the removal of the basing restriction where you can now open a second base at a top 20 airport and there is no longer a 70plane limit.

Is this true? Thanks.

Only removal of Top20 limit. There was no single word from sami's side about the 70 aircraft limit.

[DenisG]

Sami, I really miss the airline overview page with fleet and pax development and route network. I really tried to get used to it...  

Denis

[Monk Xion]

Any opinion about a Puerto Rican Airline basing in the US?

[Zombie Slayer]

You should be able to open a base in the US if you are based in PR. Unless something has changed, back in the North American Challenge SJU based carriers opened multiple bases in the US.

Don

[Monk Xion]

You should be able to open a base in the US if you are based in PR. Unless something has changed, back in the North American Challenge SJU based carriers opened multiple bases in the US.

Don

Good Now I can plan my airline for MT 5 

[Mascalzone]

can't wait to play a new game with 1.3 up! 

[Ilyushin]

At the 'Global statistics' list, Total produced aircraft doesn't sum up at the total count.

[wapp11]

You should be able to open a base in the US if you are based in PR. Unless something has changed, back in the North American Challenge SJU based carriers opened multiple bases in the US.

Don

Yeah we sure did  And if it was changed to where you couldn't it wouldn't make any sense.

[Davva9961]

Is there going to be an increase in slots in this game? They seem to have been static for quite a while now........... 

[Monk Xion]

Is there going to be an increase in slots in this game? They seem to have been static for quite a while now........... 

I've been questioning that too. I used up all of the slots between 5-6 hrs. There is only 9 per hr for my airport. LHR Is worse... all of them are taken!

[JumboShrimp]

I didn't make it into beta.  Quick question:

Have the specs of 787 aircraft been updated?  Can someome post a screenshot of Aircraft compare of 2 787 aircraft from 1.3?

Good news on removal of Top 20 basing restriction.  But it is not going to all that much if the 70 aircraft limit is still present.  One of the points of basing in Top 20 airport would be to fulfill the larger demand of the airport.  Or to effectively compete with the incumbent player at Top 20 airport.  You can't really do that much competing in, say ATL with 70 aircraft...

[Sami]

I've been questioning that too. I used up all of the slots between 5-6 hrs.

I checked the slot count against a local database copy that has a game date one year behind the current, and slot count is the same, so there seems to be an issue there. Probably just not updating the figure properly throughout the year (= it's counting it but not saving..).

Have the specs of 787 aircraft been updated?

Seems that something has been updated, at least max pax and fuel flow are different.

[oggie84]

Good news on removal of Top 20 basing restriction.  But it is not going to all that much if the 70 aircraft limit is still present.  One of the points of basing in Top 20 airport would be to fulfill the larger demand of the airport.  Or to effectively compete with the incumbent player at Top 20 airport.  You can't really do that much competing in, say ATL with 70 aircraft...

I was thinking this too. Now that we have slots increasing eventually to 200% of their original levels and the fact these slots are very expensive, it would seem pretty pointless opening a base in the Top20 with only 70 aircraft. You'd be doing your airline more harm than good competing with its incumbent player(s).

Let the 'big dogs' fight it out if they choose to. For smaller airlines and from a business standpoint, they wouldn't be stupid enough to open up there until they knew they and their airline were ready for it. However, for the bigger airlines and their players, this would be a good challange for them to go up against their 'equals' and would provide longevity further into the latter portion of the game world rather than getting fed up once they've reached their goals and bankrupting halfway through.

I realise all this has been discussed before so it just my thoughts now that we have an increased but expensive slot system in place to offset the usefulness of 70 aircraft.

[Sami]

The top70 was supposed to be gone with the "number of aircraft possible to be based at certain airport" (= airport ramp/gate capacity) feature.. But it proved to be quite tricky to calculate in a proper manner, so I have dropped it for now. But then I guess the 70-plane restriction could be lifted and just see what happens, since slots dictate it now, and slots will most likely not be anymore the most restrictive item?


ps. slot numbers should be fixed now, they update slowly throughout the next few game weeks.

ps2. if you (all) have any "final" feedback, it's now or never, since the real game world starts in 1,5 days.