Fleet Commonality Question

[tman558]

Commonality should be weighed more heavily, i stick to my 4 fleet types like a well run airline should with 80 planes.  my competitor is out growing me because he has 7 types with 30 planes, are you kidding me there is no way in real life that an airline this small would stay afloat. Not to mention i have higher frequencies on most all routs and higher RI and CI and he still gets a disproportional amount of market share.     

EX ( 7x daily with 320 vs 2x a day with 727) i have about 110% of available seats for demand (1100pax daily) on the 1500nm route yet he still has 45% of market share.  What the hell?

i know if i was a passenger i would chose the airline that flew more often, in newer planes, with better image. 


love the game some stuff doesn't make sense to me, maybe i missed something. please do tell lol   

[Brockster]

love the game some stuff doesn't make sense to me, maybe i missed something. please do tell lol   

Have you considered that he might be offering cheaper tickets than you are? 

[FlyTO]

I feel the pain in MT5.
Had 3 types at 20M/month = 5M/week for commonality costs
Added the 4th type, shot up to now 155M/month = 32M/week for commonality costs.

Profit dropped from 70M/weekly to 40M/weekly.

I only operate Large and Very Large aircrafts with over 400AC now. And now trying to rid of one of the fleets is very money consuming and tedious but needed to save the 30M/week...

Edit: Also why is salary so high at LAX? I remember last game in China, my airline was only paying 40M/week, now I'm paying close to 120M/week.
PPS. Also why do I have more staff than say SF Airlines who has 1HQ and 3Bases, AND more aircrafts than me AND more fleet types.

PPS. I play under the airline Air Redy at LAX.

[yevgeniy]

I can answer about staff costs.
People in the USA make more money then people in China, so that gate agent in LAX will make more then one in Beijing.

Regarding why you have more staff, do you operate to more airports?

[tman558]

Have you considered that he might be offering cheaper tickets than you are?  

i have discounted tickets slightly but was told that lowering ticket cost has very little effect, but as stated above i have made all the right choices and the competitor has made serious errors and yet it seems to have little effect.

[Sanabas]

Did you just create the routes? Were the planes in maintenance? Seems very strange (actually impossible) for someone to have 45% of an oversupplied 1100 pax route while just supplying ~300 seats.

[JumboShrimp]

Did you just create the routes? Were the planes in maintenance? Seems very strange (actually impossible) for someone to have 45% of an oversupplied 1100 pax route while just supplying ~300 seats.

Maybe his 7x daily flights are all leaving at the same time - or pairs of 2 at the same time ...

[tman558]

there are none at the exact same time, morning and evening as well.  Route is old (RI is 100) CI is (90) and no planes were in maintenance.

[tman558]

Did you just create the routes? Were the planes in maintenance? Seems very strange (actually impossible) for someone to have 45% of an oversupplied 1100 pax route while just supplying ~300 seats.

ya tell me about it his load factor is probably close to 100% and mine on average is about 37%


how do you post a link to page view so you guys can see for yourself?

[Sanabas]

You can only see ingame screens for worlds you're actually in, so we can't look at those directly. Use the printscreen button to take a picture, and then paste & save it in paint, of the route planning screen, and another one of the lf info of one of the routes. You can attach jpegs to your posts.

If you have 37% LF with 90 CI and 100 RI, and the competitor only supplying 30% of demand, then the only possible reason I can think of for it is that your flights are too close together. Particularly since you specify there are none at the 'exact same' time. How close together are they? With 1100 pax demand, I think the minimum gap is 30-35 min, and probably safer to use 45.

[tman558]

thank you guys, i increased the difference in departure times from 20min to 45 min. Made a huge difference practically over night. Thank You

[JumboShrimp]

thank you guys, i increased the difference in departure times from 20min to 45 min. Made a huge difference practically over night. Thank You

That's what I thought it would turn out to be.  I have seen this issue as well.  I believe the penalt is a little too harsh...

As far as gap, 20min was way too little.  for 1100 pax (average), 35min would be the minimum gap between the flights.