Which long-haul economy class seats?

[Glob-Al]

Hi,

I'm starting to look at long-haul aircraft and am a little confused about which seat type should be considered "normal" for economy class - the "standard" or "premium" seats.

On the one hand the standard seats are called, well... standard! And they are the default that the planes come with if you don't reconfigure manually. Plus on a 747-400 if you select standard seating the choice of number of seats goes up in 10s, which I presume means there is 10 to a row - as there would be on a normal 744 economy class. Selecting premium means you only get 8 to a row, which I've not seen except in a separate premium economy class.

On the other hand, the airwaysim manual seems to imply that the premium seats would be more normal for a long-haul aircraft. And if you do select premium, on a 767 you get 7 to a row and on an A330/A340 you get 8 to a row, which is certainly the norm on airlines I've flown on. However, if you go with standard, they appear to cram 8 across on a 767 or 9 across on an A330/340 - not something I've come across before.

So I'm a bit puzzled. (And then the 777 series really gets me confused because in real life most airlines go with 9 across, yet an airway sim premium config offers me 8 across, whereas a standard config offers 10 across!!)

Can anyone shed any light?

[Terrence Klaverweide]

So I'm a bit puzzled. (And then the 777 series really gets me confused because in real life most airlines go with 9 across, yet an airway sim premium config offers me 8 across, whereas a standard config offers 10 across!!)

Can anyone shed any light?

I'm not sure how normal it is in 'real life for most airliners to go 9 abreast' on the T7. Emirates does 10, so does KLM and Air France, BA on some of their Caribbean destinations. Cathay does 10, Air New Zealand and the list goes on and on. I have to admit, Air France does 10, 9 an 8 abreast on their mixed fleet of 772's and 773's and you don't see a lot of 2ER's with 10 abreast either. Guess most routes are too long for operators to cram that many pax in a tube. It really depends on the operator. I believe ANA (correct me if I'm wrong) even has 3-4-2 on (some) of their T7's...

[Glob-Al]

Fair enough. BA have ditched 10 across now but I hadn't realised others still use it for long haul, which was the context in which I'm looking at this.

Either way though, I think my original question still stands - which type of seat would be considered "normal" by the game engine?

[twistedraisin]

I'm not sure how normal it is in 'real life for most airliners to go 9 abreast' on the T7. Emirates does 10, so does KLM and Air France, BA on some of their Caribbean destinations. Cathay does 10, Air New Zealand and the list goes on and on. I have to admit, Air France does 10, 9 an 8 abreast on their mixed fleet of 772's and 773's and you don't see a lot of 2ER's with 10 abreast either. Guess most routes are too long for operators to cram that many pax in a tube. It really depends on the operator. I believe ANA (correct me if I'm wrong) even has 3-4-2 on (some) of their T7's...

I've only flown AA 777s and those are all 2-5-2 arrangements for 9 abreast in economy.

[alexgv1]

..... which type of seat would be considered "normal" by the game engine?

Standard economy seating is fine... you lose too much capacity using premium.

Hope this helps.