Definition of Longhaul

[alfkan]

What's the exact definition of "Longhaul" in this game? Would a route from US East Coast to US West Coast be considered as a Longhaul flight?

[schro]

What's the exact definition of "Longhaul" in this game? Would a route from US East Coast to US West Coast be considered as a Longhaul flight?

That would fall under the domestic category of classifications.

I'm not sure what the breaking point for international short vs longhaul is though - my guess is ~3000mi is the breaking point.

[swiftus27]

Generally speaking an ocean is involved.  Or, a change in continents over so many hours of flying (not mexico to colombia, for instance)

[Sami]

Can't remember exactly but must be at least XX miles long (3000 nm?) and span over two continents. Or something in that way.

[Benhuddy]

Long Haul is mostly seen as flights at over 5 hours continuous duration (well thats the definition in my corner of the world!)

[JonesyUK]

Long Haul is mostly seen as flights at over 5 hours continuous duration (well thats the definition in my corner of the world!)

Not if you fly with Thomsons/First Choice! 6 1/2 hour flight to Egypt apparently comes under short haul so you fly on the planes with 30" seat pitch! (i.e. not good if you have long legs!)

[minerva]

In AWS at any rate the minimum distance for Long Haul appears to be 2500 miles.  You can see this at airports that have 0% Long Haul demand but have international Short Haul demand.  Go over 2500 miles and your demand drops to zero.

[Brockster]

In AWS at any rate the minimum distance for Long Haul appears to be 2500 miles.  You can see this at airports that have 0% Long Haul demand but have international Short Haul demand.  Go over 2500 miles and your demand drops to zero.

MFM-DOH (Macau-Doha) Is over 3200NM and Macau shows up as 100% international short haul.

[swiftus27]

same continent, right?

[Brockster]

right, did not piece that one together... 

[RibeiroR]

Short-haul flight: <3 hours
Medium-haul flight: 3 to 6 hours
Long-haul flight: >6 hours


A short-haul domestic flight is commonly categorized into being no longer than 500 mi (800 km) 1.5 hours in length
A short-haul international flight is defined as a flight under 3 hours in length, when it is operated in two different countries
A Medium-haul flight is defined as a flight between 3 and 6 hours in length.
A Long-haul flights are journeys typically made by wide-body aircraft that involve long distances, typically beyond six and a half hours in length, the types are: Long-haul domestic for huge countries and Long-haul international.

thanks

[Riger]

same continent, right?

With some continents stretching over more than 4000 miles, the "same continent" restrictions seems a little harsh no?

Best Regards

Richard

[Dookz]

Shorthaul in AWS seems to be under 3400nm if it's in the same continent and under 2400nm if you're flying to a different continent.

Kabul, Afghanistan has no longhaul.
From Kabul to Narita 3410nm = no demand
and to Haneda 3387nm = has demand

From Kabul to Vienna  a little over 2400nm = no demand
and to Budapest a little under 2400nm = has demand.

[zorbon]

I remember this being my first complaint about this game.

https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,18522.msg87926.html#msg87926

[Jona L.]

Shorthaul in AWS seems to be under 3400nm if it's in the same continent and under 2400nm if you're flying to a different continent.

Kabul, Afghanistan has no longhaul.
From Kabul to Narita 3410nm = no demand
and to Haneda 3387nm = has demand

From Kabul to Vienna  a little over 2400nm = no demand
and to Budapest a little under 2400nm = has demand.

Haneda has no long haul demand, just a bit of short haul but mainly domestic. th distances vary, but generally:

same country = domestic
different country but same continent = short haul
different country, different continent, under 2400NM = short haul
different country, different continent, 2400NM and above = long haul

Jona L.

[coopdogyo]

It is 3400 miles on the same continent and 2400 miles to another continent.