Airbus Production Line vs Boeing Production Line...

Started by altmants, April 30, 2010, 02:14:26 PM

altmants

If a person perfers to go All Airbus or All Boeings, it Seems like it is better to go Boeing(in terms of fast growth) just because of the production lines.

The A330-200, A330-300, A340-200, A340-400, A340-600, are all on the same production line
The A318, A319, A320, A321 are also all on the same production line.
I'm ignoring the A310 because the A321-200 carry more people, has more range, better fuel economy, and cheaper price.

Based on this...if a new carrier is making orders for growth, faster growth can be obtained if you go with a All Boeing Fleet. Assuming I have plenty of cash, I want new planes fast...

Example: If I plan to Order 10 of each group(total of 60 plane orders)
Orders for:
Long Haul
330-200 vs 767-400
340-300 vs 777-200
340-600 vs 747-400
Short/Medium Haul
A318 vs 717-200
A320 vs 737-800
A321 vs 757-200

I would get my planes from Boeing 3x faster EXPOTENTIALLY than If If I made the purchase with Airbus.

Assuming each group produces 5 planes per month. My order of 60 planes...after 1 month, I would have 10 Planes if I order with Airbus COMPARED to 30 Planes with Boeing.  After 2 months, thats 20 Airbus vs 60 Boeing. 3 months would be at 30 Airbus vs 90 Boeing.

At 4th month, it would be at 40 Airbus vs 120 Boeing. Thats 80 planes more over a 4 month period if one picks boeing!

With that Said, I believe the A330-200 should be produced at a faster rate instead of using the same rate as the A340-600. Why should an aircraft carrying passengers in the mid 200s take just as long as an airplane that can carry 400.


Sami

IMHO the AB production rates are quite close what's been seen in real-world prod.lines. Or that's the target at least. The A340 line has been bumped up for the game purposes for some 30% compared to what other heavy a/c prodlines as it's popular and has many models (though the prod.rate calculator does take the number of models also into account when calculating the rate)

With the Boeing combination you specified, you'll get "penalties" of bad fleet commonality ..

Dave4468

Quote from: altmants on April 30, 2010, 02:14:26 PM
With that Said, I believe the A330-200 should be produced at a faster rate instead of using the same rate as the A340-600. Why should an aircraft carrying passengers in the mid 200s take just as long as an airplane that can carry 400.

Well, they are very very similar, they were designed together and have common fuselage and wings. I believe the only real difference is the engines and it has something to do with the restrictions over two engine operation. And in reality they come of the same production line.

swiftus27

Quote from: Dave4468 on April 30, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
Well, they are very very similar, they were designed together and have common fuselage and wings. I believe the only real difference is the engines and it has something to do with the restrictions over two engine operation. And in reality they come of the same production line.

ETOPS was slowly getting relaxed at the time so that twin engine planes could fly across the atlantic.   Air France flies from Paris to Brazil with one.... in fact that's the one that crashed due to failed pitot tubes.   This is why the A330 was starting to see more action at this time. 

ucfknightryan

Quote from: sami on April 30, 2010, 02:23:09 PM
IMHO the AB production rates are quite close what's been seen in real-world prod.lines. Or that's the target at least. The A340 line has been bumped up for the game purposes for some 30% compared to what other heavy a/c prodlines as it's popular and has many models (though the prod.rate calculator does take the number of models also into account when calculating the rate)

With the Boeing combination you specified, you'll get "penalties" of bad fleet commonality ..


and some serious penalties too.  Six fleet groups, yikes!  That'll get expensive fast, and heaven help you when you decide to upgrade one of those and temporarily wind up with seven groups...