Some feedback and questions

[DivineComedy]

I found out this wonderful game about 2 weeks ago and since then I'm totally hooked.
The amount of realism and attention to detail is what makes this MMO so great. So thank you for that!

After I got my hands dirty in several games, I have few questions:
1) Airline market share that you see for routes - is this calculated by the number of passengers for each airline or the route revenue for each airline? I guess it's the second, I just want to make sure.
2) Is there any way I can see the other airline prices for a specific route. In real life it's possible to know the competition's prices.
3) Does a specific route's demand can change as time passes? Is it possible that a specific route has 50/pax per day demand but in a few years it will have 100/pax per day demand? Are route demand changes simulated?

And a few suggestions:
1) It might make sense to consolidate the route image data and the route info (under Routes) or at least to have the route information button in the routes list beside the view and edit route button. Currently I have to click the view route button and then route information.
2) To have a popup like link to the scheduling page from the open new route page.
3) Will it be possible to set the level of in flight service details (food, entertainment etc.) sometime in the future?

Thanks,
N

[MattDell]

1) Number of PAX
2) No, it's not possible... there was much discussion of this in a thread not long ago and it's deliberate that you can't see competitor's prices.
3) Route demand is dynamic... I do know that it grows, but I'm not sure I've ever seen route demand shrink.

-Matt

[Riger]

I'll try answer your questions, but if I make a mistake, I am sure I'll get corrected, here we go;

I found out this wonderful game about 2 weeks ago and since then I'm totally hooked.
The amount of realism and attention to detail is what makes this MMO so great. So thank you for that!


After I got my hands dirty in several games, I have few questions:
1) Airline market share that you see for routes - is this calculated by the number of passengers for each airline or the route revenue for each airline? I guess it's the second, I just want to make sure.

I believe this shows as a percentage of all passengers that were/are carried on that route, so no matter how many seats we offer, your % shows how many of the actual passengers that flew, flew with you

2) Is there any way I can see the other airline prices for a specific route. In real life it's possible to know the competition's prices.

No, been discussed many times .... no


3) Does a specific route's demand can change as time passes? Is it possible that a specific route has 50/pax per day demand but in a few years it will have 100/pax per day demand? Are route demand changes simulated?

Good Question, I am not sure.

And a few suggestions:
1) It might make sense to consolidate the route image data and the route info (under Routes) or at least to have the route information button in the routes list beside the view and edit route button. Currently I have to click the view route button and then route information.
2) To have a popup like link to the scheduling page from the open new route page.
3) Will it be possible to set the level of in flight service details (food, entertainment etc.) sometime in the future?

You should take some time and read through the Feature Request section of the forum as well as the archived section,  I believe at least one or two of your suggestions have been discussed at length previously.

Thanks,
N

Best Regards

Richard

[ali5541]

I guess I'll pickup the tab on the third question:

3) Does a specific route's demand can change as time passes? Is it possible that a specific route has 50/pax per day demand but in a few years it will have 100/pax per day demand? Are route demand changes simulated?

To answer the question, yes. Over time, more passengers will fly. However, you need to take world disasters into account. For example, after the 9/11 attacks in New York, passenger numbers will drop. In simple terms, yes, the 50 can become 100 over time. And a small hint, if you supply a route over the limit by a bit, the route will get a 10% increase in demand. (But not more then 10%)

This should be the answer, and if I'm wrong (which I know I'm not) Someone will post the correction.

[DivineComedy]

Thanks guys!

Regarding route market share. I have a route with 130pax/day demand average and I am flying 75pax/day average in a week but still my share (sharing the route with one more) is 43%. That is the reason I find it weird that it supposed to depict the number of passengers.

The last point that Ali raised is interesting and I actually wondered whether opening a route and having marketing campaign for it can actually raise the demand by some %.

[Riger]

Thanks guys!

Regarding route market share. I have a route with 130pax/day demand average and I am flying 75pax/day average in a week but still my share (sharing the route with one more) is 43%. That is the reason I find it weird that it supposed to depict the number of passengers.

The last point that Ali raised is interesting and I actually wondered whether opening a route and having marketing campaign for it can actually raise the demand by some %.

OK so what you are saying is that if you are pulling 43% of market share and that if 43% = 75pax then logically 100% = 175pax which is then 35% over the displayed demand.

If this is what you are implying, then I agree that there is something screwy there..... or we all misunderstood the logic.  Sami will want to see some screenshots of this, so get your ALT-PRNT SCRN fingers ready.

Best Regards
Richard

[Sami]

(the demand figures shown to players are only esimates)

[freshmore]

I've ever seen route demand shrink.

-Matt

you will probably see it shrink aroud 9/11 due to the fallout from the real world events.

[Sundaypilot]

Regarding route market share. I have a route with 130pax/day demand average and I am flying 75pax/day average in a week but still my share (sharing the route with one more) is 43%. That is the reason I find it weird that it supposed to depict the number of passengers.

So you get 43% of the passengers, the competitor takes 57% ?
Lower your prices like 5-10%, and you'll get better share.

There is also several other things that affect to the # of passengers (your company image, route image, number of flights per week, quality of the seats in your plane, departure/arrival times...)

[Talentz]

OK so what you are saying is that if you are pulling 43% of market share and that if 43% = 75pax then logically 100% = 175pax which is then 35% over the displayed demand.

If this is what you are implying, then I agree that there is something screwy there..... or we all misunderstood the logic.  Sami will want to see some screenshots of this, so get your ALT-PRNT SCRN fingers ready.

Best Regards
Richard

Sounds about right to me. You have to remember that the max amount of pax you can get from a given route is 50% over estimated demand. Which means if the route estimate is 130 pax daily, then the theoretical maximum you can get from that route is 195 daily pax. (Half of 130 = 65. 65 + 130 = 195 max) Thats with RI 100, CI 100 and lowest ticket price.


So the combined 175 pax daily between the airlines flying the route is well within the limits.



Talentz

[DivineComedy]

Ok thanks for the clarification.