LF 100% to 0% (GW4)

Started by xBuzz, May 03, 2018, 08:16:09 PM

xBuzz

Hey guys. Pretty inexperienced player here, wondering if someone can spot if I'm doing anything wrong or if this is normal behaviour for routes.

I have a few long routes (850nm) for Convair 240 (I know very long for aircraft type, but just taking slots for future use). The routes go from close to 100% LF to literally 0% LF, if I raise them even a little (by less than 10%). I've tested this a few times now and it's happened every time. It doesn't happen on any other routes, but this is my longest route with these aircraft type, so wondering if that is the issue.

All three routes are on three different CV240's. All three routes depart at least an hour apart from each other. Screenshots below showing details. I'm guessing it's something simple, but any input it appreciated, as in my limited experience I've never seen route LF behave like this.

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First image shows on left where I increased prices 10% last night, the LF before that was close to 100%. The prices went back up as i decreased again by about 10%, and on the right it's where I tested again by increasing prices by about 5% this time. LF goes back to zero.



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Second image shows demand. as you can see nowhere near maxed.


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More route info, first route is the one I've been messing around with to test.





tyteen4a03

Are they undergoing maintenance checks?

xBuzz

Nope, all those aircraft don't have their C checks for at least another 4 months, and no D checks for 7-8 years.

schro

Your pricing is likely too high relative to your ri in the route.

xBuzz

Is it normal behaviour for route prices though? If I increase the price from 115 to 120 the PLF drops from 98-99 to zero. My experience before has been that at PLF that high you can increase tickets by a substantial amount, and even then a route will never have such a drastic drop.

Zobelle

Quote from: xBuzz on May 04, 2018, 02:48:35 AM
Is it normal behaviour for route prices though? If I increase the price from 115 to 120 the PLF drops from 98-99 to zero. My experience before has been that at PLF that high you can increase tickets by a substantial amount, and even then a route will never have such a drastic drop.

What kind of seating?

If standard, the drop off is much less drastic. If high density you'll see the type of dropoffs you're seeing.

schro

Quote from: xBuzz on May 04, 2018, 02:48:35 AM
Is it normal behaviour for route prices though? If I increase the price from 115 to 120 the PLF drops from 98-99 to zero. My experience before has been that at PLF that high you can increase tickets by a substantial amount, and even then a route will never have such a drastic drop.

Typically when you jump over the pricing cliff, your loads will fall from 100% to 0 just like that. The cliff moves up as RI and CI increase.

xBuzz

Ah didn't know that, thanks guys! I'll throw in standard seating on one of the aircraft and see if that helps profits any.

gazzz0x2z

Quote from: Zobelle on May 04, 2018, 03:16:41 AM
What kind of seating?

If standard, the drop off is much less drastic. If high density you'll see the type of dropoffs you're seeing.

This.

HD seating tolerates no mistake with pricing. The reason why I now always go with standard, even if it's not always the most money-making solution.

xBuzz

Yeah, I installed standard seating on one of the routes, and I can now increase the prices past where it caused them to drop to zero before.

The amount I can increase appears to give the same profit overall, so would it be better overall if you're trying to get flights to fit demand, i.e. if you have 64 demand,  two planes with 40 HD seating, to swap to 32 standard seating it means you get more profit?