Slots owning question

Started by MuzhikRB, July 31, 2017, 11:28:24 AM

MuzhikRB

As I understand - everybody who is playing in AWS received this message:

QuoteThis is a warning of your unused airport slots. Some of them are about to expire or have been already expired.

You must regularly use the airport slots you have acquired for your routes. Not flying a route for two months (or one month after it has been acquired) will lead to suspension and removal of the slot times in question (aircraft maintenance is excluded).

If that warning is rule for everybody, who can explain to me why in GW3 in ATL - company named Boredom still owning all his slots, while not flying single flight for a year ?

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Airline/View/285/223/#AirlineInfo

If there is a trick to keep owning slots while not flying them - I also want to know it.



Zombie Slayer

There are exceptions to the rule with the two most notable being routes assigned to an aircraft in D check and a company experiencing a staff strike. Trust me, I am watching this situation closely as well.  ;)
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MuzhikRB

D check is understandable.

So - you think his staff is on strike ?

Zombie Slayer

100% for sure staff is on strike. No activity for 10 days and he has not scheduled a new plane in more than 2 real life months. Seems like a classic case of loss of interest on his part.
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Zobelle

So you mean all one has to do to own and hold prospective slots with little to no cost is set employee wage to nothing?

Zombie Slayer

They have to be assigned to aircraft and have to have flown at least once. After that, if employees strike you keep the slots until you go bankrupt.
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Zobelle

Neat.

So not a "no cost" option then. Pass.

MuzhikRB

well. but it cannot last for infinity

if he doesnt play - it should not influence other players. with his cash reserves it can last 10 more years before bking.

at the same time  both of us need that slots to continue battle

gazzz0x2z

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Quote from: ZombieSlayer on July 31, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
(.../...)Seems like a classic case of loss of interest on his part.

For a company called Boredom? Nah, it cannot be...

EDIT : that being said, I can understand you. He holds 20% of slots in an airport whose slot availability is not good.

Zobelle

Maybe they're waiting out the initial bloodbath.

Zombie Slayer

Well, so much for that idea....
Don Collins of Ohio III, by the Grace of God of the SamiMetaverse of HatF and MT and of His other Realms and Game Worlds, King, Head of the Elite Alliance, Defender of the OOB, Protector of the Slots

Sami

Checked the airline, and staff has been indeed on strike.

Zobelle


Zombie Slayer

Quote from: Sami on August 01, 2017, 03:20:36 PM
Checked the airline, and staff has been indeed on strike.

Yep, it was a classic strike scenario. Player not active, slow passenger decline, slow CI decline, then pax and CI fell off a cliff while the player was not active for 11 real days. What sucks here is if the question had never been asked, the player may have never come back and ATL would be wide open for the two active airlines there. Instead it is likely his alliance took note of this thread, contacted the player and he fixed his strike situation. The exact same thing happened to me with the same player in the last GW2....staff on strike for 13 days, came back last minute and save the airline. Cost me a realistic shot at a $1 Trillion CV.
Don Collins of Ohio III, by the Grace of God of the SamiMetaverse of HatF and MT and of His other Realms and Game Worlds, King, Head of the Elite Alliance, Defender of the OOB, Protector of the Slots

gazzz0x2z

don't tell me you don't like challenge...  ;D

Zombie Slayer

Quote from: gazzz0x2z on August 01, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
don't tell me you don't like challenge...  ;D

Well, I certainly dont want to feel like I am playing a sandbox game! Not all challenges are created equal, however, and in this case challenge would increase had the airline gone bankrupt.
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MuzhikRB

at least - slots should be released.

gazzz0x2z

Quote from: [ATA]MuzhikRB on August 02, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
at least - slots should be released.

Why? Why should them? Because you want an easier game?

I can't remember a situation in real life when a company whose staff is on strike sees its authorization to work be cancelled. He had a very tough strike. That's all. He's still alive, and still allowed to operate his company. 34 CI for a company of this size is a problem, but well, still, if he dies, it will be from mismanagement. NOT from an arbitrary administrative decision that would be inspired by his two opponents on the market. You had a few months of extra income, which was already very good. Now he's back in operations.

I mean, you seem to imply that not playing for a few days is not your way of playing, and therefore should be punished. I can't agree. It might happen that real life prevents me from playing during one or two weeks, and I would hate to see my company arbitrary closed because of that. That the company would be weakened : normal. It would have missed price management, fleet replacements, new line openings on sudden opportunities, etc.... But closed with all slots stolen? Why? On what legal grounds?

MuzhikRB

simple rule

if my ac is not flown the route for 2 months i will loose slots. system will not care - either i am on vacation, at work or i just cannot find suitable ac to fill in - i will loose slots. and someone will for sure grab them if they are tasty.

d- check it is understandable for sure - its a game mechanic.

from other side - staff is on strike - how is related to this rule for slots ? it is the same problem of poor (not enough time) management , ac is not flying the route - why it is not tolerated the same way ?


gazzz0x2z

Well, strikes AND D-checks are game mechanisms. Same situation(a game rule prevents the airframe to fly), same rule(the slots are kept).