No of Passengers <> No of players

[Johan87]

I don't want to to attack Elite Alliance here,but you guys are the persons who are part of creating this problem,since the expansion of Aliance members.
Example of 5 or 6 Alliance members in USA and then help eachother out in elimenating competition.
So by making a block in this other players can enjoy too!!!
So make 1 game world where you guys can do this as you wish for but also have long worlds where people can run there airliners and not beeing attacked by a group from different bases and this way take out competition.
If you guys want a group attack maybe there should be a game world for slash of the Alliances.

Or maybe Sami can create a separate full length Beginner's World scenario as it seems that's what people here are advocating. That way those who want it easy can play there to their hearts content and those who want some more challenge can try their skills in current worlds. It's a genuine idea and one that I think is actually possible to implement.

[Elladan]

I guess having defined cause of your issues makes you feel better, it's fairly well described phenomenon that people tend to react in that way. Fair enough.

I'm not really against having more variable game worlds in this game, we have this with regional challenges and it would be actually nice to have even more different scenarios, also as part of long term games. Suppose a world without alliances could be one of those. I just don't think you will see any difference at all in regard to your gripes. But hey, what do I know...

[Yarnam]

Or maybe Sami can create a separate full length Beginner's World scenario as it seems that's what people here are advocating. That way those who want it easy can play there to their hearts content and those who want some more challenge can try their skills in current worlds. It's a genuine idea and one that I think is actually possible to implement.

This is an excellent idea as players could also learn about fleet replacement and buying and selling/leasing aircraft. I've never lasted long enough in a regular game to do this.

[schro]

I don't want to to attack Elite Alliance here,but you guys are the persons who are part of creating this problem,since the expansion of Aliance members.
Example of 5 or 6 Alliance members in USA and then help eachother out in elimenating competition.
So by making a block in this other players can enjoy too!!!
So make 1 game world where you guys can do this as you wish for but also have long worlds where people can run there airliners and not beeing attacked by a group from different bases and this way take out competition.
If you guys want a group attack maybe there should be a game world for slash of the Alliances.

Sorry but there's simply no group attack that happens. What actually happens is that we don't compete with each other, and with the current 5-6 airlines we place in the US, that's enough to take over the country under the current basing rules. 

Now, to provide some more fun facts: our 5-6 initial players never make it very far. In many game worlds we will drop to 3-4 in the US unless we end up recruiting a new airline or three. Second, even if 5-6 airlines were successful at going from game start to maximum base dominance, this can still take 10+ game years due to rate limits on acquiring new aircraft and opening bases. So what you really have at a game start is Elite airlines working their own HQ, leaving a couple dozen other options available in the country.

On that note, I should probably mention the most effective way to avoid competition from Elite airlines.... Join Elite. 

[[ATA] Hassel]

I don't want to to attack Elite Alliance here,but you guys are the persons who are part of creating this problem,since the expansion of Aliance members.
Example of 5 or 6 Alliance members in USA and then help eachother out in elimenating competition.
So by making a block in this other players can enjoy too!!!
So make 1 game world where you guys can do this as you wish for but also have long worlds where people can run there airliners and not beeing attacked by a group from different bases and this way take out competition.
If you guys want a group attack maybe there should be a game world for slash of the Alliances.

Having 5-6 members from any one alliance in the US will basically cover all main bases regardless of what alliance they are from. Accusing a specific alliance just because they know and play the game better then others is un-thoughtful

Speaking from my own alliance perspective we lost several players in the US, but this was not due to competition but instead lack of time/interest/credits

Personally I welcome healthy competition as i enjoy playing against the best

[gazzz0x2z]

(.../...)On that note, I should probably mention the most effective way to avoid competition from Elite airlines.... Join Elite. 

You've got places for next GW3?

[Elladan]

With 40 members limit we always have places 

[Zombie Slayer]

This is an excellent idea as players could also learn about fleet replacement and buying and selling/leasing aircraft. I've never lasted long enough in a regular game to do this.

On full length beginners worlds....yes! Got me thinking....one short game like now, one full length (1970-2030?) With increasing difficulty as the game progresses. This would go a long  way to closing the gap from current beginners world's to normal full length games.

[Zombie Slayer]

You've got places for next GW3?

Contact me, we will begin organizing our members for GW3 tonight.

[Yarnam]

On full length beginners worlds....yes! Got me thinking....one short game like now, one full length (1970-2030?) With increasing difficulty as the game progresses. This would go a long  way to closing the gap from current beginners world's to normal full length games.

That's even a better idea!!!