What is the point of this!?

Started by T8KE0FF, October 15, 2011, 11:12:21 AM

minerva

I've only ever done a 7 day schedule on a few long haul routes late in a game; and the reason for that is the background to my question. I'm not arguing against it, just wondering about its short term vs long term benefit.  Is setting up a 7 day rotation not a positive disadvantage early in a game when you find yourself in heavy competition?  And if you're a/c ordering is on, say, a once a month time frame you cannot then complete your schedule for seven months.  In heavy competition, especially early in a scenario when your CI is low, getting route image up is crucial to getting decent LF, making profit and staving off the competition. That has always seemed to me to be a disincentive to set up 7 day rotations from the get-go.  I understand the points about long term efficiency and fleet utilization maximization, but if you don't get a good start you might not have a long term at all. So I've always wondered, when do those players that are committed to it, start it, and how long before you see a positive outcome?

JumboShrimp

There are ways around this problem early in the game.  You can set up a schedule that in the long run will be a 7 day / 7 aircraft schedule, but fit a portion of it on the first aircraft.  It takes a little extra effort, but it can be done.

slither360

Yeah, that's always start with a single plane rotation, rather than a 7 day...

Zombie Slayer

Quote from: minerva on October 22, 2011, 07:12:37 PM
I've only ever done a 7 day schedule on a few long haul routes late in a game; and the reason for that is the background to my question. I'm not arguing against it, just wondering about its short term vs long term benefit.  Is setting up a 7 day rotation not a positive disadvantage early in a game when you find yourself in heavy competition?  And if you're a/c ordering is on, say, a once a month time frame you cannot then complete your schedule for seven months.  In heavy competition, especially early in a scenario when your CI is low, getting route image up is crucial to getting decent LF, making profit and staving off the competition. That has always seemed to me to be a disincentive to set up 7 day rotations from the get-go.  I understand the points about long term efficiency and fleet utilization maximization, but if you don't get a good start you might not have a long term at all. So I've always wondered, when do those players that are committed to it, start it, and how long before you see a positive outcome?

Much like you, I normally only use rotations in long haul scheduling. I feel that the utilization gains you get from 7 day scheduling short haul routes are not enough to outweigh the limits you put on yourself when you need to respond to new competition on routes. Now if, as Jumbo, I think, suggested, Sami makes it possible to copy a full 7 day rotation with 1 mouse click instead of doing it flight by flight I may use the practice more often, but now I find it too time consuming and limiting to make it a worthwhile use of my time.

Don
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FlyTO

Yes this is really time consuming..but one way I got around to it was open an "everyday" route first. Then change that to a single day, eg Monday. Then go through the process of add same route to next day. After you get your 7 single routes, keep your slots, and you're on your way to max fleet utilization.

On the other hand, it is a super pain in the ass to change different fleet planes like I did from A300 to 753 or 321 because of speed and turnaround times. Also, changing routes too, thats why my airline now is static, too time consuming to change anything I just leave it running itself the current way.

So I am a +1 for a feature to make the transition quicker and simpler.

Kevin

Monk Xion

Quote from: swiftus27 on October 15, 2011, 11:33:53 AM
Take your pills... this one isn't worth fighting.
seems a little angry :P