International short-haul in the US

[JumboShrimp]

What is exactly International Shorthaul in the US?

I have looked at several cities that show some International Shorthaul demand (such as IAD that is my HQ in the current game), but I can't come up with any reasonable explanation af far as what the figure could represent.  It is shown as 11% of destinations, but when I look at parts of Caribbean, Canada and Mexico, I can't come up with 11% figure, whether it is by number of pax or potential revenue.  (it seems way less than 11%).

International Longhaul, shown as 29% is probably 5x in pax, and 20x in revenue copared to anything that could classify as International ShortHaul.

[slither360]

International short haul is any flight which says "international" in the description.

That usually means <2,500 nm

[Jona L.]

That usually means <2,500 nm

No!
international is any traffic crossing a country's border, whereas USA is a single country. Interstate traffic is considered domestic, and is regardless of the distance. JFK to HNL is still a domestic flight, even though being farther than JFK-LHR.

So, to compile:
domestic = any traffic within a countries borders.
international shorthaul = traffic leaving a country. But: if crossing a continent not farther than 2400NM (->Long haul) if within a continent usually all under roughly 3000 NM (dependent on individual factors)
international longhaul = intercontinental traffic over 2400 NM and inner-continental traffic under roughly 3000NM (-> cf. shorthaul)

Jona L.

EDIT: Corrected the one or the other Typo, was on Mobile device this morning... (Biology lesson was soooo boring )

[slither360]

Jona, that's pretty much what I said, except you said 2400 nm, and I said 2500 nm, which I guess is my mistake.

[Jona L.]

Jona, that's pretty much what I said, except you said 2400 nm, and I said 2500 nm, which I guess is my mistake.

You did not specify where to 2500NM... 2500NM within the US is still a Domestic flight, so I just said more explicitly what is what.... [see my example of JFK-HNL]

[yyebo]

I guess this is because in North American, outside US most of the airports are relatively small.

As a route's pax is calculated based on both airports (I only assume), therefore you can't get a decent international short haul for US airports

[d2031k]

What is exactly International Shorthaul in the US?

I have looked at several cities that show some International Shorthaul demand (such as IAD that is my HQ in the current game), but I can't come up with any reasonable explanation af far as what the figure could represent.  It is shown as 11% of destinations, but when I look at parts of Caribbean, Canada and Mexico, I can't come up with 11% figure, whether it is by number of pax or potential revenue.  (it seems way less than 11%).

International Longhaul, shown as 29% is probably 5x in pax, and 20x in revenue copared to anything that could classify as International ShortHaul.

Some of the pie charts don't seem to be 100% accurate, but unless we can find new data I think they have to stay that way.  The original data seems to have come from this request thread, which also explains the distance used for international short/haul long-haul distinction in AWS:

https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,13.msg31.html#msg31  

I raised a similar point about Cairo, as domestic demand there is very low:

https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,21750.0.html