Prestige Rating

[ali5541]

I'm tossing in my coins for this feature request. I searched for the keyword Prestige and got nothing so I'm guessing no one used something like this (but probably similar) to what I'm about to suggest.

Anyways,

Aside Company Image, we should have another (Equally Important Factor). I suggest a Company Prestige Rating. This could and will affect Load Factors but unlike company image, you can't increase this with marketing. Prestige Rating will range from -10 to 10 (Starts at 0 Always) and will increase (Very Little and Over Time) as well as decrease according to the following:

• Passenger Comfort (Is your Airline High Class? Middle? Cheap?)
• Delay and Cancellation Frequency (Affects Prestige Rating Like Company Image but on a Smaller Scale)
• Are you Frequent on Routes or Scarce? (I'll Describe this Below)
• Alliance Rating (This Can Tie in as an Extra Alliance Feature)
• Fleet Age (New or Old Aircraft's)
• Are your prices fair?

Passenger Comfort: This can affect your Prestige in a positive or negative way for example:

Poor Comfort on Aircraft's = Small Decrease in Prestige (-0.1 Point)
Fair/Good Comfort = No Change in Prestige
Excellent Comfort = Small Increase in Prestige (+0.1 Point)

Delay and/or Cancellation Frequency: Like Company Image, you prestige rating can increase (on a small scale but over time) if your delays and cancellations are kept under the recommended levels. For example Keep delays under 15min and get a small increase over time. Keep it between 15-20min and nothing happens to your prestige. Go over 20min in delays and your prestige will decrease a bit. Same thing with cancellations; Keep it under 2% and get a small increase to your prestige, keep it between 2% and 4% and nothing happens; go over 4% and your prestige decreases a little.

Are you Frequent on Routes or Scarce: If you flood a route, that is not very prestige like and so your prestige rating will drop a bit. If your scarce, nothing happens to your prestige. If you find some middle ground, your prestige increases a bit.

Alliance Rating: This could encourage more players to join alliances and could be an extra alliance feature as well. (So Airlines are not Paying Alliance Fees for nothing as well) Anyways, if your in an alliance with a rating over (lets say) 10%. Your Prestige Rating gets a one time increase (Lets Say 10% Alliance Rating = +0.1 Point Increase). As the alliance rating improves, so does your airlines prestige. If you leave an alliance (Lets Say it had a rating of 80%) you would get a 0.9 point decrease (Like loosing Points from your Company Image, you loose an extra .1 point for leaving an alliance.) This could also be used to punish alliances for reckless behavior. For example, an alliance is starting a war and the administrator does not like it. All the airlines in that alliance could receive a prestige drop for childish behavior. (Just an Example!)

Fleet Age: I would say this would play a good factor in Prestige Rating. Is your fleet new? Is it old? Lets say if your Aircraft's are between 0yrs and 7yrs. You would receive a small increase in prestige rating for having a new fleet. If it is between 7yrs and 13yrs, nothing would happen to the prestige rating, and if it is 13yrs or older, you would receive a small decrease. Of course I'm only tossing in estimations on fleet ages, they don't have to be these exact numbers.

Finally,

Are your Prices Fair?: If you over charge on a route, you would receive a small prestige drop. If your in some middle ground, nothing would happen. And if your prices are cheap (but your services are not, for example good passenger comfort) you receive a small prestige increase.
Now think about mix and matching, if you have cheap prices but poor passenger comfort, you obviously don't get a drop or increase in prestige. But if you have cheap prices and excellent passenger comfort, you will get sort of like a double increase.

Any Ideas? Anyone want to drop there coins on the table and add more to this?

[Yb]

I like this idea. It needs a bit of tweaking but I like it

[ali5541]

I like this idea. It needs a bit of tweaking but I like it

Of course it needs tweaking, but this is the "raw" layout of it. Any other ideas?

[samomuransky]

This could definetly kill LCC in game.

[Ffylip]

I'm not quite sure what this will achieve.  As I understand it most, if not all, of the factors you mention already affect load-factors directly.  I'm not sure what benefit there is from producing another rating to do something that is already done.

Phil

[ali5541]

Prestige Rating Represents the "Luxury" of you airline. The purpose of this request is that Load Factors are not based on just Route Image and Company Image but also one the luxury of your airline. So instead of just two factors (load factors are based on CI and RI) but three factors. Company Image can be increased by marketing, route image by just flying the route, Prestige, you have to work at it. This could help smaller airlines develop at a faster rate and possibly get the upper hand against some bigger airlines.

[Yb]

This could definetly kill LCC in game.

Why? They offer cheap service at cheap price

[ukatlantic]

I like the idea - needs some minor tweeking possibly 

[samomuransky]

Why? They offer cheap service at cheap price

Exactly. And this idea would make it non profitable.

[ali5541]

Exactly. And this idea would make it non profitable.

Why would this idea affect profits? Cheap Service = -Prestige and Cheap Prices = +Prestige

They cancel out and you still have a natural flight. Why are you bagging on this idea? Do you do something with your airline that make it, well, un-prestige like? It took me an hour and a half to fully type and explain this idea out. And it indeed exists in real life. Compare Delta Airlines and Lufthansa. The prestige rating of Lufthansa does not even compare with Delta. Everyone knows that Lufthansa is better then Delta. (And a bit more expansive) but it is worth the extra price.

[ReedME]

I like it  And I'd say it definitely exists in real life, another example would be Qantas compared with for example Virgin Blue, everyone knows that Qantas has better service etc so like Ali5541 just said it is worth the extra price thus it would make a good addition to the game

[samomuransky]

I'm sorry, I didn't see there is also price. But still, there are many factors about comfort and only one is price, this WOULD kill LCC.

I prefer my idea of two ratings instead of CI:
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,14820.0.html

[ali5541]

I'm sorry, I didn't see there is also price. But still, there are many factors about comfort and only one is price, this WOULD kill LCC.

I prefer my idea of two ratings instead of CI:
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,14820.0.html

I'm not sure if there is any way to change your mind of this idea. But this would not kill LCC. You can find this out because if you mix and match between them, you would see that LCC won't be killed. Here is another more detailed scenario:

You fly an aircraft with poor comfort and expensive prices. But the aircraft is new and you have little delays/cancellations. Your end result is neutral because of this:

Poor Comfort = -0.1 Prestige
Expensive Prices = -0.1 Prestige
New Fleet = +0.1 Prestige
Little Delays = +0.1 Prestige

all resulting in = 0

If you want to get even more detailed, lets say:
You fly this route on some middle ground = +0.1 Prestige
Alliance Rating is (30%) = +0.3 Prestige

Your overall Prestige is +0.4

Now Please Note that this is a VERY VERY VERY VERY Rough Scenario. It may not end up like this after tweaking. And note that Prestige Rating will apply to your OVERALL airline.

[ali5541]

Come on! Any more ideas? What do you think Sami?

[Ffylip]

Prestige Rating Represents the "Luxury" of you airline. The purpose of this request is that Load Factors are not based on just Route Image and Company Image but also one the luxury of your airline.

But load factors AREN'T just based on Route Image and Company Image.  They are also based on passenger comfort, delay frequency, alliance rating, aircraft age etc. - in fact, (nearly) all the things you mention are already affecting load factors.

Phil

[ali5541]

But load factors AREN'T just based on Route Image and Company Image.  They are also based on passenger comfort, delay frequency, alliance rating, aircraft age etc. - in fact, (nearly) all the things you mention are already affecting load factors.

Phil

yes, but those sub-categories you mentioned do it on a very small scale. The Prestige Rating is an overall rating that effects the load factors on a bigger scale.

[ali5541]

No one wants to share there ideas about this?

[ali5541]

So I guess I'll be pulling out the coffin for my idea? What do you think Sami? I really wanted your opinion!

[rsdworker]

be patient sami is busy - i do like your idea - i agree with you

[ali5541]

well, this goes this idea down the drain.