So .. How's the new a/c ordering system?

Started by Sami, August 08, 2009, 10:20:09 AM

Howard

Wrong analogies, it's called bourbon. With a nice cigar from the Dominican Republic (damn you Kennedy) while listening to British eye-fi. It's good to be multi-cultural.

By the way upcoming slots are empty because no one ordered last month or the month before. Good system so far.

bigdogshark62

I agree...  I like the new system.

And BUD is only consumed by the unwashed masses, or those who have no other choice.   :P  For me, I'll take an Okocim (Poland, who also make a pretty good Vodka), or a Karjala (Finland, who ALSO make a damn good Vodka), or a Speight's (New Zealand, who don't make a damn good Vodka, but they do work pretty well while drunk).   :laugh:

So don't be hatin' on us Americans just because we can't keep the most ignorant amongst us off the television...   :D  Most of us are well-read, well-cultured people.

Oh, and Dominican cigars are nice (Arturo Fuente), but Nicaraguan (Drew Estate) and Costa Rican cigars (Vega, or the little family shoppes in Ybor City, Tampa) are true gems... 

Kontio


ban2

how did this go from ac ordering system to who makes the best beverages  :P

fatman1683

#24
I do think that the 10-month limit on order changes is a bit excessive.  Engines I can see requiring that much lead, since they have to be ordered as well, and MTOW should require at least 3-5mo lead to allow for engineering changes, but things like seating configuration and financing should be flexible up until maybe 1 month before delivery, possibly with an additional fee tacked on for changing the order.

Also, with regard to production slots, I think the best solution would be for the system to jump to the next occupied slot any time there's a gap.  This would allow smaller airlines' orders to get mixed in fairly with the big boys, but wouldn't unnecessarily slow the production line.  It would be more realistic as well.  Think about it, if Boeing doesn't have an order due for a particular aircraft on a particular date, they're not just going to let the production line sit idle, they're going to move on to the next order on their list.

samomuransky

I agree with last post. But new system is really good, thanks for great job, sami :)

Kontio

Now I have about 30 aircraft on order and I really like how the deliveries are automatically spread out over a year even though I made the order in 2 batches. No more C check season, this makes the heavy checks much more manageable.

LAS

#27
Hi there @all,

the new ordering system is really good - but right now I `m wondering about this:

In the actual ATB is one of the newest airline press releases: Boeing is about to close the 767-200
lines? How could it be with over 320 orders - an closed year or better a full ordered year 1997 - an the same
on the half of 1998?

greetings ;)

bleedfax18

Quote from: LAS on August 15, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
In the actual ATB is one of the newest airline press releases: Boeing is about to close the 767-200
lines? How could it be with over 320 orders - an closed year or better a full ordered year 1997 - an the same
on the half of 1998?

Maybe it is just related to the 767-200. There are a lot of other models of the 767 to order (-200ER, -300, -300ER, -400).

LAS

Quote from: bleedfax18 on August 15, 2009, 02:22:08 PM
Maybe it is just related to the 767-200. There are a lot of other models of the 767 to order (-200ER, -300, -300ER, -400).

Could be - I even thought so - but I was wondering about the the part of the release:, production lines?
???

Unbornio

I'm like the only one ordering the Fokker 100s and would like my orders to be moved up.


There should be a feature were it will be moved down if more orders come in.

Beta Tester

FatMikel

Does anyone know what the threshold is for when a manufacturer says it's closing the production line of an aircraft in 6 months? How many orders does it need to stay open?

Sami

if closure is announced it was something around 20-40 pending orders to change it back to normal status.

FatMikel

:o

Massive fail. Why do people order the less fuel efficient versions of the aircraft and cause the most fuel efficient version that I've ordered to go into production line closure.  :'(

Unbornio

Quote from: FatMikel on August 16, 2009, 03:33:03 PM
:o

Massive fail. Why do people order the less fuel efficient versions of the aircraft and cause the most fuel efficient version that I've ordered to go into production line closure.  :'(

there is a certain point where seats + range benefits outnumber fuel efficiency
Beta Tester

FatMikel

Quote from: Unbornio on August 16, 2009, 04:59:44 PM
there is a certain point where seats + range benefits outnumber fuel efficiency


Not when they're all the same capacity and each have the +MTOW options. The only reason is cost and they're near enough the same price.