So .. How's the new a/c ordering system?

Started by Sami, August 08, 2009, 10:20:09 AM

Sami

Like topic says.. Any feedback after using it for a week or so?


(to read what all was changed check the AWS 1.1 updates topic)

DenisG

I think it's great. The only thing I wondered was, whether canceled order slots could be given back to public, like in real life. But this has been already discussed I think.

Denis

ekaneti

So far so good,

The game isnt saturated yet, so we'll see how the new functionality works with regards to competition. Does the slow build up eliminate the ability of some airlines to grow quickly and does the new functionality actually increase or reduce competition? So the jury is really still out

Dasha

I really think it's an improvement to the game. Spread out a lot more giving others a good chance of getting an order of 1 plane cramped between the big orders.

Really good...

I'm still a bit hesitant about the aircraft production lines being closed when there are no orders but I'll wait and see how it happens.
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DenisG

I think it's great that once a production line is announced to be closed, you can set it back to 'normal', by placing a big order. That is how it should be. Imagine me without my beloved Saab2000...

Denis

castelino009

Sami,

Why that when we order a new plane and slots above us are free but we still end up getting slots way down. Why cant we get earlier slots.

Its a bit silly that production is empty and we still have to wait for arnd 6 months or so.  Any chance of sorting this out, where we can try to get earlier slots.

Also too many players in the game and not enough used aircrafts in the system.

New ordering systems is great other than that.

VJC


DenisG

The idea of the spacing between the production slots is to disable those airlines that generate profit very fast at the beginning  to monopolically block the order list of a specific plane, hence, gaining a competitive advantage. This way, also the smaller airlines have a chance to get an a/c in a normal time. It leads to a more leveled playing field.

Denis

Sami

Quote from: V.Castelino on August 08, 2009, 12:00:21 PM
Why that when we order a new plane and slots above us are free but we still end up getting slots way down. Why cant we get earlier slots.

Manufacturers do not build planes to storage just in case someone buys them (thus it will not be changed). It always takes 2-4 months to build it.

ban2

new production slot system is great, no worries for us smaller airlines having to wait too long for single orders.

big thumbs up from me sami.  ;D


Dasha

Quote from: DenisG on August 08, 2009, 11:54:27 AM
I think it's great that once a production line is announced to be closed, you can set it back to 'normal', by placing a big order. That is how it should be. Imagine me without my beloved Saab2000...

Denis

Nobody orders an Ilyushin 96 and by the time I have the money to order one, the line is closed. Same with some other planes. By the time somebody wants a plane, the line could be closed. Another example....

The Tupolev 204/214 for me is a great alternative for some Airbus and Boeing things... nobody orders them for whatever reason and by the time I need them and can buy them, the line is closed and you're stuck with the HUGE waiting times for Airbus and Boeings.

So yes on one side it's okay and nice but on the other it's a little strange.
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castelino009

Quote from: sami on August 08, 2009, 01:02:43 PM
It always takes 2-4 months to build it.

yes 2-4 months so why cant we get it in 2 months??? even when the production line is empty wait is almost 5 to 6 mnths, that my question Sami, other than that great work with the new thinge.

VJC

Sigma

Quote from: V.Castelino on August 08, 2009, 03:39:43 PM
yes 2-4 months so why cant we get it in 2 months??? even when the production line is empty wait is almost 5 to 6 mnths, that my question Sami, other than that great work with the new thinge.

VJC
Do you mean your FIRST plane is delivered out 5-6 months later, or that some in your order are?

castelino009

some in my order are, well i ordered 2 first and first deliveries were after 5 mnths i think :( , wats the point ordering even when line is empty it takes 4-5 mnths. 2  to 3 months is acceptable, well more 2 :)

Also the gap between my order and the one other airline was around a week.  no one around and still the wait hmmm  :o

VJC

Dasha

Airbus is build by French dear... they are sloths.... They weld a piece, then a have a drink, then weld another piece then have a baguette, then drink some more... after 10 pieces they are drunk and can't work anymore...

Same with Americans only they don't eat baguettes but burgers obviously and cheap beer instead of wine..

We Russians however, work hard even while drunk.... so always buy Russian planes if you don't like long waiting lines..
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rsdworker

yeah - other day in game = ATB2 i think - i ordered the new plane but its was too long - there was space between now to my order - its really no point having so much empty slots
maybe a factory order that sends planes to storages - then later people get it - for example few plane storaged at factory eg 3 small plane or 1 plane

Sami

Quote from: V.Castelino on August 08, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
some in my order are, well i ordered 2 first and first deliveries were after 5 mnths i think :( , wats the point ordering even when line is empty it takes 4-5 mnths. 2  to 3 months is acceptable, well more 2

Please read what I just wrote before.

jamboy2378

Buying a Russian-built plane would be the dumbest thing to do. All of your planes are built from stolen blueprints from the west which your brilliant scientists somehow managed to reverse-engineer into something Boeing never invisioned in their worst nightmare. Sort of like tricking out a Mercedes with pimp spokes...it must make the designers go ape!

It's funny that you keep mentioning burgers. Watch yourselves...McDonald's is taking over Russian stomachs.

It used to be the only thing Russian worth buying was the vodka..... but now so many other countries make better stuff

DenisG

Man, you guys must be really bored living out your intercultural humours...   :(

castelino009

Quote from: jamboy2378 on August 08, 2009, 07:48:32 PM
Buying a Russian-built plane would be the dumbest thing to do. All of your planes are built from stolen blueprints from the west which your brilliant scientists somehow managed to reverse-engineer into something Boeing never invisioned in their worst nightmare. Sort of like tricking out a Mercedes with pimp spokes...it must make the designers go ape!

It's funny that you keep mentioning burgers. Watch yourselves...McDonald's is taking over Russian stomachs.

It used to be the only thing Russian worth buying was the vodka..... but now so many other countries make better stuff

btw mate u confusing china to Russia???? They know what they make and they make it well I MEAN REALLY WELL. regarding Vodka, No one makes better than Russians do . But when it comes to Beer there soo many countries make better than BUD. Belive me they do.


So relax, have BUD and enjoy while we enjoy a nice Russian shot of Vodka. Cheers  Dasha :)

VJC

jamboy2378

I agree. You could probably home-brew stuff better than Bud.