Started by MRFREAK, May 24, 2011, 04:37:59 PM
Quote from: Quinoky on May 24, 2011, 08:34:37 PMRight, but let's be honest here.. Does any of the Ryanair kind of publicity came across to you as "good publicity"? The only thing they did was p*** people off, in fact this very thread confirms this yet again.
Quote from: MRFREAK on May 25, 2011, 09:57:46 AMThat is exactly what RyanAir wants, they gets into the press by doing and saying stupid things that makes people "oh dear lord what a crappy and stupid airline" then people starts talking about them and then RyanAir is on everyones lips. So everyone starts hearing about RyanAir And that is what Simon Spies ment by "Even bad publicity is good publicity"
Quote from: EYguy on May 24, 2011, 11:43:37 PMI fly Ryanair only when there's no other option.When you fly for business and you have to pay for every kilogram you put on the a/c, you realize that Ryanair is not cheaper than other airlines. I wuld rather fly Lufthansa paying a bit more but without the worry of how much weight I take aboard, or what to do if a volcanic cloud messes up everything, I can get peltny of drinks during my flight and if the company makes a misteake, they pay for it without whining.O'Leary is the classic irish: he plays the wisemouth but as soon as he see some troubles he starts whining like a child. When the business is not doing as he expected to, he starts shooting to everyone. Oh, look, Ireland is almost broke and the banks are tightening the ropes for the credit to companies? O'Leary says that he will "think about" the next a/c order...O'Leary is just an accountant that should do what accoutants do: sit in an office filling in Tax Office forms and shut up his mouth, leaving the business to people who run airlines for a living.And stop whining about a rule which is hitting hard everybody in the industry.
Quote from: ucfknightryan on May 24, 2011, 04:57:58 PMI think that O'Leary will say/do just about anything to get the press talking about Ryanair, as opposed to having to pay for ads. It's why, every once in awhile, they talk about charging to use the toilet. They'll never actually do that, because a) if they did they'd have drunk tourists urinating in the cabin rather than pay and b) it would probably depress drink sales, but it's a great fallback to get the media up in arms.
Quote from: EYguy on May 26, 2011, 08:46:06 AMLilius, the cost cutting, SHOWING OFF and business development of Mr. O'Leary can be discussed quite in detail.Here are some examples of how he's just considering the accounting problem:-he keeps killing routes when apo administration do not comply to his requests. From a point of view of business development this is not a good strategy and you know why? Because a good manager who really cares about business development looks for win-win solutions, not "I win, you get a kick in your butts" as O'Leary does.-showing off: he keeps talking loud about competitors not behaving correctly (especially AZ on the Milan-Rome route) but then he wants people to stand during flight (suggestion dating back to 2009), addresses safety concerns about rival airlines (AZ, while merging with AP) one year after FR f/a were accused of not having been trained properly. While AZ is one of the safest airlines of the industry (at least one good thing about that crappy airline).He keeps comparing his airline to other airlines while I've never seen Lufthansa, Air France or BA comparing themselves to Ryanair (nice move... Like comparing Mercedes to some crappy car).He uses the stupidity of his customers to lure them catching his planes, while people do not understand that if Ryanair is one of the most on-time airlines in Europe is because they do not have connecting flights and, because they have you paying for your luggage, they have lower turn around times than regular airlines. But if you fly from BGY to BUV and from BUV to, say, SHA and your first flight is late, you'll miss the second one and no one will ever refund your ticket.-cost cutting: I never heard the allegiations of fueling the a/c to the minimum required, as it happend with FR instead. I never heard f/a of other airlines telling me:"We're sorry, but the lavatory ran out of water and can't be used anymore". Me:"Why did it run out of water?" F/a:"We didn't have enough time to fill up the tank during turn around" WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!Talking about other airlines: I always travel with luggage and, considering my PC case and business bag, I would be pay a fortune flying frigging Ryanair.Then again: if I'm coming to your wonderful country for a meeting in Stockholm, it's better for me to travel from MXP and land in Arlanda, then catch the train from there to the town centre where I can meet my customer. But if I'm going to Jonkoeping, it's more convenient to fly from BGY to Skavsta. Flying to Skavsta even while flying to Stockholm is stupid because I have to pay a fortune for the bus and travel for almost 100kms to get in the towncentre.Talking about time: if I had to calculate all the car rental invoices, check in luggage for a bag being 1kg overweight or the gate agent driving me mad for my business bag, I'd probably pay more for a Ryanair flight than a Lufthansa Italy flight.Then I've my time: time is money, so all the time I spend doing nothing is wasted money. What O'Leary never says and what he never mentions is that he flies to bumf*** nowhere... I never complained about Easyjet, because they have the same routes and lower prices than other airlines.What I hate about Ryanair is that continous whining of O'Leary and being a wisemouth (which I learned to consider a eat of most of the inhabitants of the Irish island), selling cheap marketing for a crappy airline, misleading customers (and Ryanair got busted several times by the EU, you should know that, for misleading ads!).All the money I spend on a "free Coke" on Lufthansa is what I would probably pay for a rental car and a snack in a godforsaken apo in the middle of nowhere. Plus, I got my frequent flyer miles, I have my business class lounge access, fast track for security, no problem with luggage and so on... Oh, and I never fly business class in Europe or flights shorter than 6 hrs. I usually do that when going to USA, South Africa, Asia or like now that I'm going back to Europe from Australia.I just do not understand those people who keep saying that FR is a good airline. Ok, it is a good airline provided that: you're travelling with your toothbrush and nothing more, you are not in a hurry to go anywhere, you want to leave from a godforsaken place at impossible hours, you like to travel in a seat that is smaller than one you could find on a bus, you can stand unprofessional FR f/a (not all of them, most), you do not need your PC and the power plug. For everything else, you have a Miles and More Mastercard!
Quote from: MRFREAK on May 26, 2011, 03:10:15 PMI talked with my dad about RyanAir a couple of weeks ago, and he told me that some airports gives the airlines some good bargains if they start flying to/from their airport, and RyanAir gets a s***load of bargains.
Quote from: Lazybee on June 01, 2011, 10:06:41 PMAm I correct in understanding that captains that work for Ryanair get paid bonuses for a quick turn-around time and reductions if they fall behind the allocated turnaround time of 25mins!?