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[GEnx]

I think you are indeed quite biased. Economics studies are also very high esteemed, especially econometrics (companies line up for those who hold an econometrics degree, literally). And some business degrees such as the MBA at the LBS are highly esteemed as well.

[alexgv1]

I think you are indeed quite biased. Economics studies are also very high esteemed, especially econometrics (companies line up for those who hold an econometrics degree, literally). And some business degrees such as the MBA at the LBS are highly esteemed as well.

I also have a biased view of that. Two of my housemates are doing economics, they all just get drunk and go out all the time, never do any work, and still end up with a 2:1. So you'll have to forgive me for having that bias too 

[GEnx]

Let's put it this way then:

CEO Royal Dutch Shell (Peter Voser) - MSc Business Administration
CEO Unilever (Paul Polman) - MBA in Finance and International Marketing
CEO ING Bank Netherlands (Jan Hommen) - MSc Business Economics
CEO Toyota (Akio Toyoda) - Master of Business Administration
GCE Barclays (Robert Diamond) - BA Economics, MBA
CEO BNP Paribas (Baudouin Prot) - Business Administration degrees from HEC Paris and École nationale d'administration

etc.

[alexgv1]

Let's put it this way then:

CEO Royal Dutch Shell (Peter Voser) - MSc Business Administration
CEO Unilever (Paul Polman) - MBA in Finance and International Marketing
CEO ING Bank Netherlands (Jan Hommen) - MSc Business Economics
CEO Toyota (Akio Toyoda) - Master of Business Administration
GCE Barclays (Robert Diamond) - BA Economics, MBA
CEO BNP Paribas (Baudouin Prot) - Business Administration degrees from HEC Paris and École nationale d'administration

etc.

Just shows any old drunkard can become a CEO then   

[GEnx]

Haha, you're persistent.

[Curse]

You ignored my on-topic post ;(

[GEnx]

I didn't, I replied:

It is quite unbelievable though how aircraft like the HS Trident get completely forgotten. I believe this is the same as Pepsi vs Coca Cola, people simply choose the brand, not the "taste".

[swiftus27]

CEO Brown Star Airlines (John Brickel) - BA Political Science, MBA Management 

[GEnx]

Well, there you go.

CEO Breezand (Nick Meijer) - BSc International Business (admittedly, still working on it)

[slither360]

From what I've heard, a double major in Engineering and business is the best way to get a good job.

[GEnx]

Well, since you're then specialized in two key areas, of course it is a great way to get a job. Most airline CEO's hold this combination so if you want to run your own airline in the real world, that's the way to go.

[Curse]

I didn't, I replied:

It is quite unbelievable though how aircraft like the HS Trident get completely forgotten. I believe this is the same as Pepsi vs Coca Cola, people simply choose the brand, not the "taste".

The Trident has the same range as DC-9, but is bigger (in the last 3B Variant, arriving early-mid '70s), but I think it's a good aircraft as second fleet type if your first fleet type is Fokker F.28 or BAC-1-11. Unfortunately the fuel consumption is much higher and only the 3B variant has a good pax/fuel ratio.

[GEnx]

Hmm..

Fuel consumption per seat per hour:

B727-100: 4760/114 = 41.75
HS121 1C: 4380/102 = 42.94

Quite the same if you ask me. Not to mention that the turnaround of the HS121 is 5 minutes shorter, the lease price is 20k per week per plane lower, and the speed is Mach 0.05 higher than the B727-100. Again, the B727 is popular due to the brand, not the specifications (unless you need its range, of course).

[Curse]

B727 is popular because you have a mid-high range model (B727-100), you have a big short-mid range model (B727-200) and you can replace both with B727-200 Adv.

So you are very flexible and get an excellent aircraft with the B722Adv, while the Trident offers you nothing more than bigger versions. Trident is ok for people who are late in the B727 queue or want to save some money while ordering. Range of the Trident isn't enough to make a big difference due to the higher speed and faster turn-around and, again, you are limited in range and pax. And while the bigger B727 variants consumes less fuel or the same, the bigger Trident variants need much more.

Again, no bad aircraft and it has it's advantages (like the DC-9), but I think it's wrong to say it has no good advantages, especially for airlines that needs the range (because there is _no_ alternative in range if you don't want to use B707 or DC-8).


(Aircraft name ; pax manufacturer config ; pax eco maximum ; pilots ; crew ; turn-around ; speed kts ; range nm ; fuel consumption kg/hr)

Boeing 727-100           114   131   3   4   45   459   1990-2230                   4760-4950
Boeing 727-200           156   183   3   4   45   459   1350-1430-1480   5030-4850-4770
Boeing 727-200Adv.   162   189   3   4   45   459   1980-2100-2520   4100-4290-4510

Hawker Siddeley HS121 Trident 1C   102   115   3   3   40   490   1170   4380
Hawker Siddeley HS121 Trident 2E   114   127   3   3   40   490   1500   5060
Hawker Siddeley HS121 Trident 3B   132   154   3   4   40   490   1290   5190

[GEnx]

Yep, the -200 and -200Adv are way better. But we're talking about the B727-100 here. An due to its incredible popularity, it will become hard to get the -200 and -200Adv properly before the game world's end. But indeed, like I also said, the range of the B727-100 is the only thing that sets it apart from the rest.

[alexgv1]

CEO Breezand (Nick Meijer) - BSc International Business (admittedly, still working on it)

CEO Brown Star Airlines (John Brickel) - BA Political Science, MBA Management 

CEO South West Airlines (Alex Gralton) - MEng Aeronautics and Astronautics (in progress)

Just shows any old drunkard can become a CEO then   

Looks like we're all a bunch of wasters then