1950's AWS Game

[Colonial]

I just wanted to ask and see when there would be an old school 1950's game starting?  My love of jets is small compared with propliners, hence my question. 

[ban2]

surely this should be posted in another forum

i prefer the jet age

[mufc4evr]

That would be horrible as there wasnt much demand then.

[thedr2]

I don't think lack of demand is a huge problem, given that Sami can cap the number of players very low if he wants.

I think it's on Sami's list of things to introduce to the game, but he wanted to make sure everyone had played a 1990s game as that was by far the most popular era in a pre-launch poll.

[Sami]

The pre 1970s needs testing first as that hasn't really been played before. And perhaps the demand model has to be tuned too as I think ALL of the routes will be too small there ... but anyway if a early scenario is set up it will be limited to 100-150-200 players due to the low pax numbers.

But at the moment it's not really yet a current issue.

[swiftus27]

It really took the 707 to make travel available to the masses.  Prior to that, it was pretty much reserved for the upper echelon of society.

[thedr2]

I would say the DH Comet did that actually, the 707 was just the yanks answer to the British innovation. The Comet failed because it had the dared to go where no passenger aircraft had gone before, and unfortunately took on all the risks and unkowns that came with it. Boeing just sat back and played it safe, taking advantage of the grounding of the Comet fleet to win back the orders of American (and most european) airlines. So the 707 became the flag carrier of the new jet age, even though it was, in essence, just a fraud. (ok, maybe a bit harsh!  )

The 747 on the other hand, was an example of Boeing pushing the boat out. And full credit to them, they got it spot on.

Although to be perfectly honest, the transition of civil aviation from posh flying cruise liners to travel for the masses was hardly an overnight thing. No single aircraft or airline could be credited for it.


Ok, now I think I'm just babbling. Back on topic maybe? 

[swiftus27]

Yeah, super.  While the Comet was the first Jet liner to ever reach production, it really wasn't what brought jet flight to the masses.  According to Wikipedia, only 114 were ever built.  The Comet also had the unique ability to blow up in mid air all the time because of one design flaw....  that being the shape of the windows.

The 707, on the other hand saw 1,010 being built....

[thedr2]

Yes, but the 707 did not have much ahead of the Comet in technical spec. It just happened to be in the right place at the right time. The original design for the 707 had all the flaws that caused the Comet to crash, problem was Boeing hadn't produced any yet so could easily change it, not say easy for De Havilland.

[swiftus27]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_367-80
This is the test 707, it was the infamous one that did the barrel roll for spectators.
It first flew in 1954
The first flight of the 707 was in 1957.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Comet
The Comet
It first flew in 1949 and was introduced in 1952.
The first of the structural failures took place in 1954.

(Just putting facts out there, no spin)

[kingskipster]

The pre 1970s needs testing first as that hasn't really been played before. And perhaps the demand model has to be tuned too as I think ALL of the routes will be too small there ... but anyway if a early scenario is set up it will be limited to 100-150-200 players due to the low pax numbers.

But at the moment it's not really yet a current issue.

Anything from the 1970s and earlier needs to include industry regulation, especially in the United States markets. You would see airports such as Stockton (and Modesto, Santa Rosa, Fresno, etc.) actually being significant. Fresno FWIW is growing in significance, mainly due to size and distance from major airports, whereas Stockton is too close to four major airports to really have any real use. Not so before deregulation, when many major airlines always flew into Stockton -- using large jets (727s, DC-9s, etc.). The airport is capable of landing a 747 (Air Force One landed there a few years back and other 747s have landed there too). So, a pre-deregulation game would be slick.