Just a quick message, to welcome you to the updated AirwaySim site. :) :laugh:
Work is still in progress in fine tuning the migration, but meanwhile you can read the FAQ of the new site here: https://manual.airwaysim.com/simulation-documentation/faq-new-user-interface
Hi Sami, seems like you cannot create new airlines. I was doing bad so declared bankruptcy and wanted to restart in Modern Times. However it keeps loading the page where I'm supposed to create my new airline. Probably due to the new site, but appreciate if you'd have a look so I can create my airline again.
Quote from: KunstAviation on April 25, 2024, 01:44:30 PMHi Sami, seems like you cannot create new airlines. I was doing bad so declared bankruptcy and wanted to restart in Modern Times. However it keeps loading the page where I'm supposed to create my new airline. Probably due to the new site, but appreciate if you'd have a look so I can create my airline again.
I am able to load the Create Airline page normally, at least currently. (the one with the Easy Start or Advanced Start buttons .. was your problem later on in the airline creation page?)
Sorry, maybe I am old fashioned but I prefer the previous version. More intuitive and quicker. You had all info at a click's distance. Now, you have to click at least twice, with drop-down menus, etc.
I cant find the aircraft fleet page on the new format. Also I find the new forget confusing and it begs the question.if it aint broken ,why fix it ?
Quote from: saetta on April 25, 2024, 06:50:53 PMI cant find the aircraft fleet page on the new format.
Aircraft fleet page? Inside the game the pages are in the same locations, or did you mean some other page?
Quote from: saetta on April 25, 2024, 06:50:53 PMAlso I find the new forget confusing and it begs the question.if it aint broken ,why fix it ?
I suggest to read some of the news and previews I have posted over the course of last year to understand why this upgrade is happening.
And also generally to everyone who might comment about not liking the new revision: I am wondering - why didn't you test the new website before the launch, and give the feedback already then? There was a long open testing period available with chances to comment it, with a chance to play this new AWS revision without any cost(!). I understand that we all have been using the old (ancient) AWS site for long and grown used to it, and I am expecting negative comments, like happens on every major change made on every system. But this is not something that was brought out of the blue. But, this is not the final version and work goes on.
Anyway, I have gotten a lot of feedback and a lot of improvements have been made already during the course of today, and the development work continues as planned. But I will be a bit less available over the weekend due to other commitments.
As a reminder, please file a proper bug report on any issues found: https://feedback.airwaysim.com/
sami i am talking about the page that has your entire fleet with the age of each aircraft
Hi
Seems to be a bug in that I got hit for fines for a ramp check/no maintenance on a plane that had schedule only for routes with no slots.
The fine may have been corrected, but my reputation hit is still present.
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The popup window to select collateral for a loan won't open.
Quote from: AngryOpossum on April 25, 2024, 09:31:33 PMThe popup window to select collateral for a loan won't open.
I will look into this soon. But for the future please file all problem reports to the new feedback site: https://feedback.airwaysim.com/
edit: This actually works for me, can't find an issue here? I will ask others.
edit2: and also seems to work for one other user. If it doesn't work for you please post me some more details (your device and browser for example).
Quote from: saetta on April 25, 2024, 07:36:03 PMsami i am talking about the page that has your entire fleet with the age of each aircraft
Its in the same place as before, nothing has changed in the game page locations. Note that the URLs for pages have all changed so any old bookmarks won't be valid.
Quote from: Jazz on April 25, 2024, 09:10:36 PMHi
Seems to be a bug in that I got hit for fines for a ramp check/no maintenance on a plane that had schedule only for routes with no slots.
The fine may have been corrected, but my reputation hit is still present.
There have been no changes in the daily calculations with the new website but please post me some details (https://feedback.airwaysim.com/) so I can look into this, since there have been a few problems with this in the past. And if it was a wrongful fine I can restore the CI.
Quote from: MozHawk on April 25, 2024, 04:11:07 PMSorry, maybe I am old fashioned but I prefer the previous version. More intuitive and quicker. You had all info at a click's distance. Now, you have to click at least twice, with drop-down menus, etc.
Yes absolutley, Click twice or scrolling down sucks every change you have made. And at all i think it feel the game performance loading times and quick change from drop-down menus feel slower. Hope that will be improved shortly next time. Also the go back button dont work well. You allways have to set filters again and again for example if you check Maintainces of a spezial fleettype....
There are a few issues with the back button on (old) pages with sub-tabs (i.e. Dashboard) still, but if you have other problems, just post me some details to the bug tracker and I can take a look later on.
It will take some getting used to but in general I am happy that the site looks a bit more modern now.
Hopefully some changes will still be made, workflows are a bit different now and some things are not as smooth as they used to be.
I'll try to post some things to the feedback site!
There are always negative comments with major site upgrades and it just takes time to get used to things. For what it's worth, I played in the test games and HATED the new site. It just seemed clunky and dis-intuitive in many ways. I promised myself I would quit when it went live. But what's actually been presented, while not perfect, is better than I expected. It runs a LOT faster than the old site for me, too.
I was a bit annoyed because, other than logging actual bugs, I didn't get chance to offer any feedback. I'd prepared a whole list of comments and observations as Sami said there would be a survey distributed via email at the end of testing, but that never happened. Then again, CBD was "imminent" 4 years ago and that didn't happen either.
Anyway, it works and life goes on. Although it's now even WORSE than before to play on a phone, which seems a bit backward in 2024!
The new version is really not good, navigating is difficult and dose not look as good.
I was shocked how bad it is. I almost quit but decided to play to the end of the current server im still on. After that, no thanks. Older was way better.
Also not a fan of the new site. Used to be able to see all the filters / drop downs for used a/c on one webpage, now I have to scroll to tick common fleet etc.
Quote from: FlyZef on April 26, 2024, 10:22:33 PMAlso not a fan of the new site. Used to be able to see all the filters / drop downs for used a/c on one webpage, now I have to scroll to tick common fleet etc.
There is a drop down if you click the 3 vertical dots at the top of the screen. Would be nice to have it be just on the main page again still. Or at least a sliding menu that shift on and off page from the side when needed.
Appreciate all the hard work that goes into this site. It really is a great game. But the new layout is taking some getting used to and doesn't appear to be very user friendly or visually friendly in comparison to the previous version.
- I use a laptop and sometimes even my mobile if i'm out and about. It's much more difficult to navigate on both and the top bars seem to take more space than the previous version, meaning less visibility on the screen of game stuff. I have to zoom out to 75% on some pages just to make the page viewable. The graphics and fonts seem too big.
- Not a fan of having information condensed into places where previously it was shown on the main screen in one visible place.
- When creating schedules you can't just click the demand section and get a pop up, I have to right click and open in new window. Can we adopt a policy of "As few clicks as possible" for navigation around the website.
Quote from: stevojh on April 27, 2024, 09:14:25 AM- When creating schedules you can't just click the demand section and get a pop up, I have to right click and open in new window. Can we adopt a policy of "As few clicks as possible" for navigation around the website.
There is a bug report on this, but I cannot replicate the issue. Would need some more data to help me find the cause here.
I cannot schedule maintenance for my aircraft. The maintenance box appears and I can select the days but the time drop down boxes are greyed out and I can't select a time. Any ideas?
Quote from: Garyh90 on April 27, 2024, 10:11:30 AMI cannot schedule maintenance for my aircraft. The maintenance box appears and I can select the days but the time drop down boxes are greyed out and I can't select a time. Any ideas?
No ideas really since nobody else has reported of this, and works for me too. Did you try to reload the page and/or clear browser cache if there's some old data remaining?Actually, found now the reason and should work again now! (was not working for about 5 minutes there)
Quote from: Sami on April 27, 2024, 09:20:00 AMThere is a bug report on this, but I cannot replicate the issue. Would need some more data to help me find the cause here.
Just noticed it seems to be a tab issue. On the primary tab it works fine. If I open a new tab or anymore after that, it doesn't work.
As someone who does a fair bit of UI design for a living, I'll try and make you some suggestions this weekend Sami if you're open to that - overall I feel that the design has both some hierarchy and balance issues that I'll try to pin-point :)
Yep, please, but then please focus only on the totally done new pages like Game-->Statistics, or Game-->Settings.
I'll have a look :) . I'll give you some suggestions on the main pages as well, fixing some alignments can go a long way!
At first, I found the "notifications" tab (bell symbol) at the top right of the page to be confusing.
It seems that the tab lists notifications for every game on one page.
I would prefer that the tab would list only notifications for the specific game that I am playing. Or, if this is not possible, at least the entry should list what game the tab refers to.
Quote from: Karl on April 27, 2024, 12:43:55 PMat least the entry should list what game the tab refers to.
But it does? The notifications are now centralised - making it convenient to see when something happens without having to go through each game, and it says the name of the game there.
(maybe change the text to have the game name first in the notifications text?)
Yes, on second look, I do see the name of the game. Sorry.
However, I do like your suggestion to possibly put the name of the game first.
I agree with fightman the upgrade is actually a downgrade, making everything more difficult to achieve. I have played this game for about 6 years and unless this format improves i am out for good The thing that bothers me most is the SAMI does not really care in my view...its his way, or the highway !!
Quote from: saetta on April 27, 2024, 04:04:16 PMI agree with fightman the upgrade is actually a downgrade, making everything more difficult to achieve. I have played this game for about 6 years and unless this format improves i am out for good The thing that bothers me most is the SAMI does not really care in my view...its his way, or the highway !!
Yep, then it is bye bye for you. Sorry to say, but this is a big and hugely important upgrade for us in the long run and in the big picture, and if you fail to understand what we are doing here and what is our plan for development, then I can't help you any further.
Any further off-topic posts will be removed.
Firstly, Thank you.
As a long time player of the game, can I say that the PC version of the game looks fantastic and I can't wait to see what plans you have once the rebuild is complete. I love the font you have chosen for example.
Secondly, and I know its a work in progress, but playing on my iPhone has become close to impossible. Is there a better browser I can use in the interim?
Quote from: Sami on April 27, 2024, 12:49:04 PMBut it does? The notifications are now centralised - making it convenient to see when something happens without having to go through each game, and it says the name of the game there.
(maybe change the text to have the game name first in the notifications text?)
I'd also prefer to see just the messages for the game I'm playing. One problem I've found with the new way of doing this: If you read a message from another game world you are automatically "transferred" into that world without any notification. Obviously this can lead to mistakes although the limit of mine was "oooh there were NONE of them available on used market yesterday, now there are over 200!"
I don't like being taken to another game either. So, I now try to ignore the message bell with the red dot/number and only check messages in the game I am attending to at the moment.
Quote from: saetta on April 27, 2024, 04:04:16 PMI agree with fightman the upgrade is actually a downgrade, making everything more difficult to achieve. I have played this game for about 6 years and unless this format improves i am out for good The thing that bothers me most is the SAMI does not really care in my view...its his way, or the highway !!
I have had a corporate career for decades. Own my own company since 2010. Aviation is my passion because of my father who was a crew member for almost 50 years in Portugal. One thing I have learned while managing companies is that when things we initially thought to be outstanding don't work, you go back to where you were. Or if not tested enough prior to migration, disaster is a possibility. I am not saying. It happened so many times. One of our multinationals lost hundreds of million euros in Poland simply trying to implement an IT solution which almost led to disaster. They reversed course. I am happy you are totally confident and totally disregard us who have been supporting your AWS for so long. That said and because your answer to Saetta is totally unacceptable, even if he may have used strong wording, I am stopping my "affiliation" here. A business owner who cannot handle criticism from customers doesn't play by the same business rules as I do. Wish you Sami good luck and you can keep the credits I still have.
Over and out!
MozHawk
Sorry if you don't like the updates we are doing now and will be doing in the future (which will be solely thanks to this major update we now did). I am not trying to please everyone since that is impossible with any major update, or please only the persons who are the rudest or loudest (only AFTER the updates have been done!), and for sure not reverting anything back to the old site either (ridiculous thought!).
The migration to the new system has went 99% according to plans and without major problems and with only minimal downtime, and this is now a solid base to develop further (but sadly this big picture might be too difficult for some to understand)..
Thanks, see you.
p.s. there is still some layout tuning to be done, and if you encounter any further issues please remember to report them! Actively spending the development time to fine-tune the details asap.
Just give us the new seatmaps ;D ;D ;D
The new UI took some time to adjust too. There are a couple extra clicks here and there, but overall, I've grown used to it at this point, and it's working pretty well for how new it is. I will also state that I have been impressed with how much Sami has done in these last 2 weeks to fix issues with the new UI. He has been very actively involved.
People don't like change. We are creatures of habit, and these changes are making us change habits. But once done, I think most people will be mostly ok with the new UI. We may all have our preferences, but we can't all have things exactly how we want. Thats just not realistic.
Quote from: Todorojoz on May 03, 2024, 09:10:29 PMThe new UI took some time to adjust too. There are a couple extra clicks here and there, but overall, I've grown used to it at this point, and it's working pretty well for how new it is. I will also state that I have been impressed with how much Sami has done in these last 2 weeks to fix issues with the new UI. He has been very actively involved.
People don't like change. We are creatures of habit, and these changes are making us change habits. But once done, I think most people will be mostly ok with the new UI. We may all have our preferences, but we can't all have things exactly how we want. Thats just not realistic.
Especially if this UI is a stepping stone to changes that many of us do want...
Quote from: Todorojoz on May 03, 2024, 09:10:29 PMThe new UI took some time to adjust too. There are a couple extra clicks here and there.
I guess you haven't had a change of base yet & had to adjust cargo or unblock seats on a 7 day schedule.
Losing filter settings on a screen refresh is more than a couple of clicks.
I'm not really sure where to post this, but on iPad latest OS/Safari... the base fuel supplier option is stuck only on your initial HQ, you can't pull the screen to find any off view pull down with your other bases. You can't click anything to make it come up. You can see it on PC and it's way over to the upper right...but nothing on iPad. You need both to be able to play if you have more than base and get a fuel supplier at each one.
Seems like IOS issue asking around.
I'm adjusting, but that's the #1 issue I still see outstanding that requires multiple devices to continue playing and not doable if your main device is an iPad.
Quote from: spiff23 on May 06, 2024, 11:33:10 PMI'm not really sure where to post this, but on iPad latest OS/Safari... the base fuel supplier option is stuck only on your initial HQ
On my iPad I can see the "base airports" dropdown normally at the Fuel Supplier Contracts area top right-hand corner. (?)
p.s. all issue reports should go here: https://feedback.airwaysim.com/
Thanks! It's now fixed / drop down showing and I registered for new site.
When using my mobile there's no filter options when on the used aircraft page. Makes it very annoying having to scroll through page after page.
Quote from: stevojh on May 08, 2024, 06:29:56 AMWhen using my mobile there's no filter options when on the used aircraft page. Makes it very annoying having to scroll through page after page.
Yes there is, click on the three-dots icon at the top.
(And also read the FAQ: https://manual.airwaysim.com/simulation-documentation/faq-new-user-interface )
Quote from: [ATA] ChrisMcclean on April 26, 2024, 05:46:38 AMAlso the go back button dont work well. You allways have to set filters again and again for example if you check Maintainces of a spezial fleettype.
This was reported only a few days ago through the feedback site (so I missed to follow up on this comment). But it's now improved.