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Title: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: ACfly on December 14, 2010, 02:50:34 AM
Hi,

Just a curiosity question: what happens when the slots of full for airlines that are based in one city states such as Hong Kong and Singapore and Guam?  Does the game end for these airlines and it's just sit and wait? Can they expand to nearby countries?
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: Frogiton on December 14, 2010, 03:09:26 AM
Nope they sit there and manage their slots wisely, that's all you can do. But Hong Kong and Singapore have quite a few slots.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: schro on December 14, 2010, 04:58:01 AM
Folks in PGUM can open US bases ;-)
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: Ilyushin on December 14, 2010, 07:02:31 AM
I'm pretty much stuck in the Jet Age in Prague as well. Czechoslovakia does have small cities, but are not really worth it. I also have a competitor doing very good taking many slots, he has over 100 aircraft while I have 50.

Just wait for the new year so new slots appear.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: LostInBKK on December 14, 2010, 07:15:33 AM
Quote from: Frogiton on December 14, 2010, 03:09:26 AM
Nope they sit there and manage their slots wisely, that's all you can do. But Hong Kong and Singapore have quite a few slots.

So does this mean if you base yourself in HKG you can not set up a base in China, so I am guess that is also true for the Chinese Airlines they can not set up base in HKG if there main base is in China?

Cheers
LostInBKK
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: GDK on December 14, 2010, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: LostInBKK on December 14, 2010, 07:15:33 AM
So does this mean if you base yourself in HKG you can not set up a base in China, so I am guess that is also true for the Chinese Airlines they can not set up base in HKG if there main base is in China?

Cheers
LostInBKK

Maybe they can do so after 1997. Historical status of the country is simulated in AWS.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: LostInBKK on December 14, 2010, 09:21:30 AM
Quote from: GDK on December 14, 2010, 09:13:00 AM
Maybe they can do so after 1997. Historical status of the country is simulated in AWS.

Yes that is why I was asking :-) I tend to stay away from the really large airports but I am always interested in this type of information.

Cheers
LostInBKK
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: Sami on December 14, 2010, 10:12:34 AM
HKG vs. China basing is not available, as that's how it seems to be in reality too - though no firm facts on this but HKG seems to retain it's previous status pretty much still.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: JonesyUK on December 14, 2010, 10:55:31 PM
Quote from: sami on December 14, 2010, 10:12:34 AM
HKG vs. China basing is not available, as that's how it seems to be in reality too - though no firm facts on this but HKG seems to retain it's previous status pretty much still.

Should HKG be included with the UK as the UAE countries & Singapore were in the 60's & 70's? It isn't in the game ???
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: JumboShrimp on December 14, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
Quote from: ACfly on December 14, 2010, 02:50:34 AM
Hi,

Just a curiosity question: what happens when the slots of full for airlines that are based in one city states such as Hong Kong and Singapore and Guam?  Does the game end for these airlines and it's just sit and wait? Can they expand to nearby countries?

You can write a strongly worded letter, that airports should expand based on demand for slots...  ;)
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: Knos on December 15, 2010, 12:18:36 AM
Quote from: sami on December 14, 2010, 10:12:34 AM
HKG vs. China basing is not available, as that's how it seems to be in reality too - though no firm facts on this but HKG seems to retain it's previous status pretty much still.

Yes, I believe this is still the case. Ever since the handover, HKG has become a Special Administration Region (SAR). So techincally while HKG has been handed back to the Chinese government, HKG has the the right to self-govern for 50 years past the handover. Therefore they are still operating governments independant of each other and that is why there is still no basing allowed between China and HKG. This same situation applies to Macau as well, but I'm not sure when their right to self-govern will end.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: mtnlion on December 15, 2010, 07:01:56 AM
Quote from: ACfly on December 14, 2010, 02:50:34 AM
Just a curiosity question: what happens when the slots of full for airlines that are based in one city states such as Hong Kong and Singapore and Guam?  Does the game end for these airlines and it's just sit and wait? Can they expand to nearby countries?
You can always upgrade to bigger aircrafts on the existing routes and that will set free some slots.  :)
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: jdsnively on December 16, 2010, 09:37:50 AM
I have a girlfriend from Hong Kong SAR. and she informed me that China and Hong Kong are two seperate countries, although they are linked in name; their government (atleast at this point) are seperate.

I had a very successful airline in Hong Kong, but i bailed out of Hong Kong for this reason.

exactly like WilZak said (i hadn't read his comment when i originally posted this)
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on December 17, 2010, 01:09:20 AM
As far as I can remember - China and Kong Kong/Macau are separate as with what jdsnively said above. But I still see Chinese airlines basing in Macau! Why?

Cheers,
ICEcold
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: GDK on December 17, 2010, 05:32:47 AM
Quote from: ICEcold on December 17, 2010, 01:09:20 AM
As far as I can remember - China and Kong Kong/Macau are separate as with what jdsnively said above. But I still see Chinese airlines basing in Macau! Why?

Cheers,
ICEcold

Maybe it is focus city but not base.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: GMas on December 20, 2010, 01:10:19 AM
Quote from: GDK on December 17, 2010, 05:32:47 AM
Maybe it is focus city but not base.

As far as I know, you can't have "focus cities" in Airwaysim without having a base at the same city.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on December 20, 2010, 04:46:41 AM
yeah - at one point in ATB Macau was ruled entirely by Chinese airlines... I saw one start up there....let's just say it wasn't there for long. :-\
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: jest on December 20, 2010, 01:13:52 PM
I based at HKG on MT2 and despite all restrictions i came up on top at the end.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: type45 on December 20, 2010, 03:10:38 PM
Those Chinese airlines may have right to operate flight from different Chinese cities to HKG, but they are not based in HKG......
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: GDK on December 20, 2010, 09:38:33 PM
Quote from: type45 on December 20, 2010, 03:10:38 PM
Those Chinese airlines may have right to operate flight from different Chinese cities to HKG, but they are not based in HKG......

When you are flying from A to Z to VHHK, it seems VHHK is the hub, but actually not.
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: swiftus27 on December 21, 2010, 12:43:23 AM
Quote from: GMas on December 20, 2010, 01:10:19 AM
As far as I know, you can't have "focus cities" in Airwaysim without having a base at the same city.

could you imagine having one airline based in many cities all having 150% of the demand in hong kong?  I have seen it done.  Guess how many flights/airline that would be?
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: LostInBKK on December 22, 2010, 04:18:36 AM
1  ::)

Cheers
LostInBKK
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on December 23, 2010, 05:50:04 PM
 :laugh: nice BKK. I would like to see Focus Cities, but given that my playing turf is in Asia, I don't know how well that'll work with so many big airlines there. :P

Cheers,
ICEcold
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: ICEcoldair881 on December 23, 2010, 05:51:18 PM
Quote from: GDK on December 20, 2010, 09:38:33 PM
When you are flying from A to Z to VHHK, it seems VHHK is the hub, but actually not.

where in god's name have you been?! That was like sooo 2 versions ago! :P
Title: Re: One City state - what to do when slots are full?
Post by: Minto Typhoon on December 30, 2010, 12:03:08 PM
Chinese carriers can base in Macau in the game.

Modern times 3

1 based airline - PAC air.

Principal hub - Xiamen, China.