Remove the MRJ- Add the MC-21-310

Started by rodriguezppa, February 10, 2023, 12:10:49 AM

rodriguezppa

Since it is now official the MRJ will never enter service, it is fair to request for it to be removed from the game, and please also consider adding the MC-21-310, this model has already been certified and actual orders have been received.

Sami

#1
The planes are never removed even if they don't make it to the production. The database includes also "prototype" models, which have been planned but never entered commercial markets to add more variety and have players the chance to create a bit of own path.


For MC-21: I'll consider adding some Russian stuff after Putin ends his war in Ukraine. :P  In any case the MC-21 is not a particularly significant model since entry into service is planned 2025, so the impact to game is rather minimal if we consider the time frame. And the plane's EIS will for sure be delayed even further in the real life, due to majority of the plane's systems relying on Western components and the economic sanctions against this dictatorship will start to hit in the longer run, and even though they claim to be replacing everything with russian-made stuff, there's probably another 5+yr delay to the project. But as a plane itself, politics aside, it is something that does belong to AWS database.

rodriguezppa

#2
Quote from: Sami on February 10, 2023, 10:22:13 AM
The planes are never removed even if they don't make it to the production. The database includes also "prototype" models, which have been planned but never entered commercial markets to add more variety and have players the chance to create a bit of own path.


For MC-21: I'll consider adding some Russian stuff after Putin ends his war in Ukraine. :P  In any case the MC-21 is not a particularly significant model since entry into service is planned 2025, so the impact to game is rather minimal if we consider the time frame. And the plane's EIS will for sure be delayed even further in the real life, due to majority of the plane's systems relying on Western components and the economic sanctions against this dictatorship will start to hit in the longer run, and even though they claim to be replacing everything with russian-made stuff, there's probably another 5+yr delay to the project. But as a plane itself, politics aside, it is something that does belong to AWS database.

Funny that you don't ban American-made planes from your game every time they invade another country.

If you are going to go political, then at least do it in an unbiased way. I guess standing against US invasions would not make economic sense for you, or am I being too honest?

You opened the door on this, now deal with it.

swiftus27

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rodriguezppa

#4
So, when will we get the MC-21-300 and MC-21-310? Ukraine is all but done in the war, and this plane has been certified for a long time, so stop making excuses and put the fu**ing bird available.

Please also add the TU-214, this plane has been flying around for quite some time, and is now being revived in Russia due to the West getting their head inside its ass one more time.

gazzz0x2z

If you take some distance, the main problem right now with the MC-21 in AWS is to get some stats that are not completely made up. As parts supplying IRL is not guaranteed (trying to stay neutral there), real performances might differe a lot from what was forecasted, for reasons independant of the design.

Maybe TU-214 has better known information?

rodriguezppa

Quote from: gazzz0x2z on December 30, 2023, 07:43:48 AMIf you take some distance, the main problem right now with the MC-21 in AWS is to get some stats that are not completely made up. As parts supplying IRL is not guaranteed (trying to stay neutral there), real performances might differe a lot from what was forecasted, for reasons independant of the design.

Maybe TU-214 has better known information?
Is this a stats issue really? The 300 version was already certified by Rosaviatsa, so that should be enough, the 310 was also certified IIRC, and the only one pending certification is the 310-RUS. So stop making up excuses and add the plane. You have included that flying
coffin called 737MAX so don't play the righteous card in here.

Jake

Quote from: rodriguezppa on December 30, 2023, 06:22:14 AMso stop making excuses and put the fu**ing bird available.
I am pretty sure there's better ways of asking for something to happen than this, or do you go around saying this to everyone you meet in real life as well?
Just asking out of curiosity...  :-\
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Sami

#8
Quote from: rodriguezppa on December 30, 2023, 08:10:58 PMSo stop making up excuses and add the plane. You have included that flying
coffin called 737MAX so don't play the righteous card in here.

You are now way out of line with your attitude here, so please stop that (consider this as a warning, and do not continue like this to keep a friendly environment here).

Please refer to my previous reply on the subject.

Also, note that the Tu-214 a.k.a Tu-204-200 is already in the database with full and accurate details.
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php?msg=468285
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php?msg=468290


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