Combi aircraft don't seem realistic on cargo --go to feature request thread

Started by spiff23, March 01, 2018, 04:21:57 AM

spiff23

ATTENTION--there's a feature request on this topic....not sure you can close a general post...but if you are interested in the topic...please go to this thread:
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,75911.new.html#new



Now that we have the cargo planes in all world's...can someone who gets the pallet math work with Sami on the cargo mix/capacity on the widebody combis?  Right now the DC-10 type has no heavy cargo capacity...which doesn't seem right given it take on main deck cargo pallets and probably still have more heavy cargo lift than a narrow-body freghter that does allow heavy..   This wiki has some specs around air cargo containers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_load_device#Main-deck_ULDs

KLM has flown 747combis to ORD for years and this bird is definitely taking on heavy cargo if you've ever seen the activity around it when it arrives/readied to depart.  It's clearly less capcity than a full 747F...but the section between doors 4 and 5 has a massive cargo door that takes on main deck cargo. the seat guru map gives some perspective on size for main deck heavy cargo. the -100/200 versions are the same layout with the main deck for cargo aft of door 4
https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KLM/KLM_Boeing_747-400_combi_B.php

this article has a picture and some perspective on the Sabena DC-10 combi.  they actually loaded cargo between doors 1 -2 and the pax cabin went from 2-4...accorfing to this 4 main deck cargo pallets could be carried.
http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605349

Seems like everyone flew combis to Chicago at one point as my first ORD transaltantic flight was a BA747Combi ...part of my fascination with the plane type 8)

Talentz

The issue is not space on Combi aircraft. There restricted from carrying HC as per the manual and the way Sami has set up cargo.

https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Manual/Routes/Cargo/

Thus, if you want VLG Combi to handle HC as well, hit the up the feature request thread and shake your fist at Sami drop a post.


Talentz


wilian.souza2

Quote from: Talentz on March 01, 2018, 06:29:47 AM

Thus, if you want VLG Combi to handle HC as well, hit the up the feature request thread and shake your fist at Sami drop a post.

I already did it!

JumboShrimp

Under this scenario, Combi Aircraft would be too overpowered.

Since the allocation algorithm of pax and cargo can be exploited by with increased frequency (and increase from 0 to 1 is the infinite increase in frequency) of smaller aircraft. Combi aircraft would then serve as +1 flight on another type of cargo, and would likely decimate pure cargo aircraft on routes that have both pax and cargo demand.

If the allocation was different, say by price rather than number of flights, it would not be a problem, but under the current rules, it would likely be a problem.

spiff23

ATTENTION--there's a feature request on this topic....not sure you can close a general post...but if you are interested in the topic...please go to this thread:
https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php?topic=75911.new#new