We REALLY Need 1.3

Started by iFlysimX, May 11, 2011, 05:21:47 PM

iFlysimX

I am sorry to say but this is getting very boring.....And I know a lot of players are thinking the same thing. We are all paying for 1.3 and yet it still hasn't been released after MONTHS of previews. Please Sami do something....More Scenarios or something.

PS: I REALLY LOVE AWS but we just need a change ;)


Thank You,
Clement

Pilot Oatmeal

I agree, there are only 3 games available ( one being the beginners world not for experienced).  We need to see more improvements and more scenarios.  Months of 1.3 and we haven't received a possible release date. 

We ALL love AWS but it is time for a change.

Regards,

Jordan

Sami

#2
It seems to me a bit that you don't know what you are expecting with next version? Since the original post looks like you are expecting "the moon from the sky", but v.1.3 does not have any major new features (like already announced time ago) but it focuses on various smaller improvements here and there that cannot be done to running game worlds (hence the new version number).  ref: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,26356.0.html

And if you happened to see the site news, the next scenario starts in two days.

Lurkmat

Will the new game world be with the 1.3 updates?

iFlysimX

Quote from: sami on May 11, 2011, 06:01:18 PM
It seems to me a bit that you don't know what you are expecting with next version? Since the original post looks like you are expecting "the moon from the sky", but v.1.3 does not have any major new features (like already announced time ago) but it focuses on various smaller improvements here and there that cannot be done to running game worlds (hence the new version number).  ref: https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,26356.0.html

And if you happened to see the site news, the next scenario starts in two days.

I didnt say new features.....update and tweaks would be nice and just to remind you that we are paying ;) ive joined AWS 6 months ago and when i joined there were a bunch of previews of 1.3 and 6 months later still nothing......

iFlysimX


[ATA] Sunbao

I started last june to play again an already there people wanted som new life to the game, 1.3 only fix things and ad some small features a serious update will take years with this tempo heh.

And before that we will be stock with an okay game but not more than that, its way to easy and every game turn out to be the same.

Jps

( This post goes for everyone, even though I'm quoting just Sunbao)

Quote from: Sunbao on May 11, 2011, 06:43:57 PM
[...] its way to easy and every game turn out to be the same.

It only turns out to be the same if you make it. If you always base in the same (sized) hub, you shouldn't expect that much different game play. And don't say that you can't otherwise grow big; there are other factors than being the biggest airline.

AWS started as a small project by one man who wanted to do something he likes to do. The project got bigger, more expensive and had to be financed (AWS was initially thought to be Free to Play). Now it's grown alot, but there's still just one man behind everything. Granted, if AWS was given to a team of coders, a lot could happen, but that was never the aim of AWS (I suppose).

Novadays people are used to getting everything right now, and with the least effort possible. For AWS this translates to getting new game experience every time from new
features without players having to change their playing style; that is, their hub and planes they favor. This just doesn't make an equal equation if you think the man power, and the pace of the games.
The solution to this equation is to either vary your games by trying different tactics (even BKs aren't a bad thing - you can always learn from them) or have a break from AWS.

iFlysimX

Ok then put more Game World.......theres a new one every 6 weeks thats enough time to get bored!

slither360

Quote from: Clement on May 11, 2011, 07:17:58 PM
Ok then put more Game World.......theres a new one every 6 weeks thats enough time to get bored!

Not worth the server load.

I agree with Jps, although I believe that Sami could utilize the user's willingness to help more effectively.

swiftus27

#10
Sadly, I can only emulate what many vets are saying.  I know I've volunteered to help many times but never have been taken up on it.  

I have played the games with different airports, planes, and competition.   There just isn't much else to play for.

I have suggested countless items in Features and most go either don't get responded to, minused without understanding, or other reasons.  Some are so stupidly simple, I was sure they'd be implemented immediately but haven't.

I have about 8 airplanes to schedule and I am just not motivated enough to do it.  I just know that frequency wins, grab slots, and order tons of planes, and don't worry about commonality.

I'm trying to do my best to help players but even that is getting overly difficult to do.  

Sami, I am sorry to direct a small amount of this to you, but I have to....  when you asked for people to help moderate the boards and be game helpers, I am sure many applied.  I am surprised that no one got an email saying "sorry the position is filled but I really appreciate your interest".   I do know this is your sim first, but there are many people here who have done tons to try to help the community.  We just sadly don't have any channel to talk with you and rarely get responses.

From what I am reading, this sim may need a little boost.  While there are many people willing to help, their cries are falling on deaf ears.

iFlysimX

Quote from: BobTheCactus on May 11, 2011, 07:30:33 PM
Not worth the server load.

I agree with Jps, although I believe that Sami could utilize the user's willingness to help more effectively.

Ive ask Sami many time if i could donate money amd or help him with anything and he never answered.....

ukatlantic

Quote from: Clement on May 11, 2011, 06:13:25 PM
I didnt say new features.....update and tweaks would be nice and just to remind you that we are paying ;) ive joined AWS 6 months ago and when i joined there were a bunch of previews of 1.3 and 6 months later still nothing......

I think SAMI is practically a one man band DEV wise here, and doesn't have Mr Gates money  to employ people to work for him, heck for all we know SAMI has a full time job and this he does as a little sideline on his quest for world domination!  ;D

slither360

Quote from: ukatlantic on May 11, 2011, 07:43:06 PM
I think SAMI is practically a one man band DEV wise here, and doesn't have Mr Gates money  to employ people to work for him, heck for all we know SAMI has a full time job and this he does as a little sideline on his quest for world domination!  ;D


Yes, but I'm sure that plenty of users would be happy to help for free if it improved the sim.

swiftus27

Not to mention that this game is using over 50,000 creds per year... so as a 'side job' it sure is nice to gross over $50,000.

Jps

Quote from: swiftus27 on May 11, 2011, 07:37:02 PM
Sadly, I can only emulate what many vets are saying.  I know I've volunteered to help many times but never have been taken up on it.  

I hear you, Swiftus. My comment was indeed aimed especially at those who have been playing for under a year...

Pilot Oatmeal

The fact of the matter is, we are customers paying for a product that at the moment isn't satisfying us (or a few of us).  It may differ from person to person but for some players (incl myself) that have been playing for 5+ months it is getting pretty boring.  We have tried to tell sami what we would like to be implemented (granted somethings cannot be modelled changed etc) and they have not been implemented or are taking a long time to get implemented (6 + months).  If sami cannot afford to hire staff or increase the server load than its time to up the price a little bit... and / or let people/companies advertise on the website (how facebook make their money).  

I would like to finish up just by saying i think it is great how AWS has come along, but if it continues like this for much longer it just isn't going to interest me for much longer.  

Regards,

Jordan

mtnlion

Quote from: swiftus27 on May 11, 2011, 07:51:42 PM
Not to mention that this game is using over 50,000 creds per year... so as a 'side job' it sure is nice to gross over $50,000.

I'm not sami, but I think that money is not the main motivation for him. You have to take the time he uses to develop AWS (and all the server costs,taxes etc.) into consideration before you start counting the "$$$" the game makes.

I've been playing AWS since beta and still enjoy it. This game has changed much since beta times, and sometimes there are periods when nothing seems to move on, yet here we are now with many features that we could only dream when beta was going on.

ukatlantic

Quote from: swiftus27 on May 11, 2011, 07:51:42 PM
Not to mention that this game is using over 50,000 creds per year... so as a 'side job' it sure is nice to gross over $50,000.

I hear you, but dont forget all the costs involved in running this sim and whatever taxes have to be paid on that income too, I bet not much of that $50k goes into SAMI's Ferrari fund  :laugh:.

Anyway I think SAMI does a brilliant job here and granted there are numerous improvements that need/would be nice to have in AWS to make it even more attractive/have better playability but think of AWS as a vintage wine the longer you leave it the more mature it will get and how the paletability will improve on tasting, same principle goes for AWS IMO; the longer AWS continues to get our support the better and more fun this game will be as new improvements and better playability come online, granted V1.3 has been in the pipline for a while, but we don't know what contrstaints SAMI is having to work to get it working and what legal/employment issues he may be subject to if he accepted development assistance from the players to get the upgrades moving along  :)

alexgv1

#19
Quote from: swiftus27 on May 11, 2011, 07:37:02 PM
Sami, I am sorry to direct a small amount of this to you, but I have to....  when you asked for people to help moderate the boards and be game helpers, I am sure many applied.  I am surprised that no one got an email saying "sorry the position is filled but I really appreciate your interest".

Yes good point to pick up on and I'm surprised nobody mentioned it earlier (but then I though it may have only been me), this is very unprofessional, seeing as AWS is a business. Although much more communication is becoming electronic these days, most companies have the courtesy of letting the unsuccessful applicants know before announcing the positions dealt out.

Also there is such a piece of legislation in the UK (and maybe the EU) called the Freedom of Information Act, which allows public to see the published financial records of a company each year. Is there such a thing in Finland? Or is it applicable to us seeing as there is an international client base? It would be interesting to see where the Credits are going, either into the business investing in improvements, funding other projects, wages, corruption, etc.
CEO of South Where Airlines (SWA|WH)