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Title: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: EmilyHampstead on March 10, 2019, 02:58:42 AM
Could this fleet-and-route plan be possible for an AirwaySim airline?

--START OF SAMPLE FLEET-AND-ROUTE PLAN--

Fleet plan:


Route plan


--END OF SAMPLE FLEET-AND-ROUTE PLAN--

-Emily (age 15)
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: rntair on March 10, 2019, 03:06:29 AM
Quote from: EmilyHampstead on March 10, 2019, 02:58:42 AM
Could this fleet-and-route plan be possible for an AirwaySim airline?

--START OF SAMPLE FLEET-AND-ROUTE PLAN--

Fleet plan:


  • Boeing 707 (in service: 1958-end)
  • Boeing 727 (in service: 1964-end)
  • Boeing 737 (in service: 1968-end)
  • Boeing 747 (in service: 1970-end)
  • Airbus A300 (in service: 1974-end)
  • Aerospatiale-BAC Concorde (in service: 1976-end)
  • Boeing 767 (in service: 1982-end)
  • Boeing 757 (in service: 1983-end)
  • Airbus A310 (in service: 1983-end)
  • Boeing 737 Classic (in service: 1984-end)
  • Airbus A320 family (in service: 1988-end)
  • Airbus A340 (in service: 1993-end)
  • Airbus A330 (in service: 1994-end)
  • Boeing 737NG (in service: 1997-end)
  • Boeing 777 (in service: 1997-end)
  • Boeing 717 (in service: 1999-end)
  • Airbus A380 (in service: 2008-end)
  • Boeing 787 Dreamliner (in service: 2011-end)
  • Airbus A350 (in service: 2015-end)
  • Boeing 737 MAX (in service: 2017-end)
  • Boeing 777X (in service: 2020-end)

Route plan


  • Boeing routes from/to ATL to/from random airports in the United States (1958-end)
  • Concorde routes from/to ATL to/from random airports in Europe (1976-end)
  • Airbus routes from/to ATL to/from random airports in the Middle East (2001-end)

--END OF SAMPLE FLEET-AND-ROUTE PLAN--

-Emily (age 15)

This is basically a list of every Airbus or Boeing plane made in the past 60 years. Cap your fleet types at 3, and save yourself heartbreak by not flying A380 or Concorde, and probably 747 from the 1970s. Don't generalize your route plan by aircraft manufacturer- your route plan is 737, A320, or MD80/90 on medium haul domestic, wide body (not A380 or 747) on international to Europe/Asia, and throw in some CRJs or EJets for regional.

Also, did I mention not to fly the Concorde? Don't fly the Concorde.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Zobelle on March 10, 2019, 03:14:24 AM
Concorde is practically impossible to make profit on outside of LHR and in some instances JFK or EWR. Just don't do it.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Amelie090904 on March 10, 2019, 03:28:37 AM
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Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Zombie Slayer on March 10, 2019, 04:33:46 AM
Ohh,Ohh, I got this one! The answer is "how to bankrupt more frequently than Southeast Airlines"   :laugh:
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: JJ on March 10, 2019, 05:20:30 AM
Why would you still want to fly the 707 in 2035? That is if somehow the production line would still be open by 2000.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: SirMS on March 10, 2019, 05:25:10 AM
Quote from: ZombieSlayer on March 10, 2019, 04:33:46 AM
Ohh,Ohh, I got this one! The answer is "how to bankrupt more frequently than Southeast Airlines"   :laugh:

Oh, this made me cackle. ;D
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Infinity on March 10, 2019, 06:49:42 AM
Quote from: ZombieSlayer on March 10, 2019, 04:33:46 AM
Ohh,Ohh, I got this one! The answer is "how to bankrupt more frequently than Southeast Airlines"   :laugh:

By the way, nice tie, Alex!
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: dmoose42 on March 11, 2019, 01:16:32 AM
Quote from: ZombieSlayer on March 10, 2019, 04:33:46 AM
Ohh,Ohh, I got this one! The answer is "how to bankrupt more frequently than Southeast Airlines"   :laugh:

This is impossible. No one can BK more than that!
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: deovrat on March 11, 2019, 04:36:35 AM
Quote from: dmoose42 on March 11, 2019, 01:16:32 AM
This is impossible. No one can BK more than that!

Its not about the number of bankruptcies.. its more about the bounce-backability :D
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: mp81 on March 11, 2019, 09:09:42 PM
Speaking of...

Quote from: ZombieSlayer on March 10, 2019, 04:33:46 AM
Ohh,Ohh, I got this one! The answer is "how to bankrupt more frequently than Southeast Airlines"   :laugh:
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: madflava13 on March 11, 2019, 11:50:29 PM
I get the joke re: Southeast Airlines.  Can anyone explain why they keep doing that, and then restarting in the same spot?
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: dmoose42 on March 12, 2019, 12:12:58 AM
It's one of the Achievements - who can BK more than everyone else!
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Cardinal on March 12, 2019, 12:19:23 AM
Ah, Southeast  ;D
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: dmoose42 on March 12, 2019, 12:22:47 AM
honestly, the strangest part, as this has been going on for years!!! Does anyone know when the first southeast BK was? I honestly cannot remember a time when this wasn't a part of my AWS life...
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: deovrat on March 12, 2019, 05:24:23 PM
I wonder what'd happen if I spend some credits and reserve the name Southeast Airlines, just for kicks...
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: rntair on March 12, 2019, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: deovrat on March 12, 2019, 05:24:23 PM
I wonder what'd happen if I spend some credits and reserve the name Southeast Airlines, just for kicks...

Would South East Airlines be allowed?
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: dmoose42 on March 13, 2019, 08:14:00 AM
You better reserve both names to be safe.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Zombie Slayer on March 15, 2019, 08:57:02 PM
Or just change your user name  :laugh: :laugh: ;)
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: dmoose42 on March 15, 2019, 10:38:23 PM
That's awesome!!! I approve! I'm so jealous
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: EmilyHampstead on March 16, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
How about this?

Fleet:



-Emily (age 15)
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: madflava13 on March 16, 2019, 01:07:23 PM
Emily,
It really depends on the base you choose and whether those aircraft are appropriate for the routes available there.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Zobelle on March 16, 2019, 01:25:51 PM
Quote from: EmilyHampstead on March 16, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
How about this?

Fleet:


  • Tupolev Tu-204 (domestic and regional routes)


-Emily (age 15)

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Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: JumboShrimp on March 16, 2019, 06:30:11 PM
Quote from: EmilyHampstead on March 16, 2019, 08:20:51 AM
How about this?

Fleet:


  • Bombardier Dash 8 (feeder routes)
  • Tupolev Tu-204 (domestic and regional routes)
  • Airbus A350 (other routes)


-Emily (age 15)

Not sure about Tu choice, but otherwise (replacing Tu with something more competitive), it would fine for airport with good international pax demand.

But from airport where you are based at now, not a good fit.  You should think about a fleet with a good Freighter (and those are few and far between).
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: EmilyHampstead on April 16, 2019, 05:40:12 AM
I haven't posted in the general forum for some time now, so I'll reveal a possible fleet plan that's hopefully more fuel-efficient as we reach the 3rd millennium in-game:


-Emily (age 15)
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Mort on April 16, 2019, 07:18:35 AM
That seems a lot more sensible! You won't want to try and do 3 fleet transitions at a time though, best to space them out.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Tha_Ape on April 16, 2019, 07:22:01 AM
The Comet until the mid-80s is still 100% suicide, though.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: JJ on April 16, 2019, 08:15:25 AM
There's no point in operating only Comets until the mid 80s or flying a300s for just 9 years.

Right now you only have 3 CV240s, so you might wanna replace them with something similar in size but faster in speed and try to expand a little.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: Zobelle on April 16, 2019, 11:11:54 AM
Quote from: Tha_Ape on April 16, 2019, 07:22:01 AM
The Comet until the mid-80s is still 100% suicide, though.

This is putting it lightly, They're suicide when they're new.
Title: Re: My idea of a fleet-and-route plan for a new AirwaySim airline
Post by: rntair on April 16, 2019, 12:43:28 PM
Quote from: EmilyHampstead on April 16, 2019, 05:40:12 AM
I haven't posted in the general forum for some time now, so I'll reveal a possible fleet plan that's hopefully more fuel-efficient as we reach the 3rd millennium in-game:


  • de Havilland Comets (short-haul from 1966 to 1985 in-game)
  • Airbus A300s (medium-haul from 1976 to 1985 in-game)
  • ATR 42s (short-haul from 1986 to 2005 in-game)
  • Boeing 767s (medium-haul from 1986 to 2005 in-game)
  • Embraer E-Jets (short-haul from 2006 onwards in-game)
  • Airbus A330s (medium-haul from 2006 onwards in-game)
  • Boeing 777s (long-haul from 2006 onwards in-game)

-Emily (age 15)

Combine A330/B767/777 into one or two fleet types. Use 767 for 3500-6000nm routes and 777 for 6000nm+ routes. Or forget about doing long-haul as it is mostly for vanity and adds little to the bottom line except in certain cases. Use 764 for 3500-5000nm routes with ~270/80+ demand, 763 for 3500-6000nm routes with ~230-280 demand, and possibly 762 if you really want to operate routes reaching up to 6700nm. A333 is good but the fleet type doesn't have any model comparable to the 763 that can carry 240 passengers. A343E is underrated IMHO for long haul and is has efficiency on par to 77L if you really want to do long haul.
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