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Title: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Karl on May 06, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
I have previously participated in several scenarios, and I have always had a problem with the problem of keeping/losing slots when closing a route or making major changes.  In the current Game World 4 I see this becoming an issue especially when moving from piston to jet aircraft which might require schedule changes of more than four hours.

As I have experienced it, when making a schedule change, I am offered the possibility of keeping or returning slots.  It seems that there is no way to keep slots at the hub airport while returning slots at the destination (no longer served airport).  As a result, I either am forced to relinquish valuable hub slots along with the unused destination slots or keep the unused slots and have my message box filled with slot warnings for two weeks.

Am I missing something, or is there actually a way to keep the hub slots and return the unwanted destination slots?
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: deovrat on May 06, 2018, 03:07:10 PM
You can always close routes without losing slots at both ends. Then simply make your schedules to coincide with your HQ slots in hand and let go of destination slots.

You can salvage at least 50% slot value this way.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Karl on May 06, 2018, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: deovrat on May 06, 2018, 03:07:10 PM
You can always close routes without losing slots at both ends. Then simply make your schedules to coincide with your HQ slots in hand and let go of destination slots.

This is a great suggestion, and I have done this, but I cannot figure out how to let go of remaining unused slots after the new schedules are made.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Zobelle on May 06, 2018, 03:23:04 PM
Quote from: Karl on May 06, 2018, 03:03:17 PM
I have previously participated in several scenarios, and I have always had a problem with the problem of keeping/losing slots when closing a route or making major changes.  In the current Game World 4 I see this becoming an issue especially when moving from piston to jet aircraft which might require schedule changes of more than four hours.

As I have experienced it, when making a schedule change, I am offered the possibility of keeping or returning slots.  It seems that there is no way to keep slots at the hub airport while returning slots at the destination (no longer served airport).  As a result, I either am forced to relinquish valuable hub slots along with the unused destination slots or keep the unused slots and have my message box filled with slot warnings for two weeks.

Am I missing something, or is there actually a way to keep the hub slots and return the unwanted destination slots?

I just delete all messages.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Tha_Ape on May 06, 2018, 03:40:36 PM
You cannot sort out your slots between base and destination. This is a pain for the mailbox, but well, it just lasts for a few days.

Become a major lessor and you'll experience it 24-7 ;D
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Karl on May 06, 2018, 04:38:03 PM
I am surprised that there is not an easy way to keep the hub slots while returning the other slots.

Do you suppose that this could/should be a request for future development?
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: tyteen4a03 on May 06, 2018, 05:16:38 PM
You should just let the slots expire. No advantage for you to return the slots early.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Luperco on May 06, 2018, 05:49:02 PM
Quote from: Karl on May 06, 2018, 04:38:03 PM
I am surprised that there is not an easy way to keep the hub slots while returning the other slots.

Do you suppose that this could/should be a request for future development?

It is only a problem of messages in the mailbox. I don't think that worth a fix, considering that there are other, more important, things to do.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Zobelle on May 06, 2018, 07:54:03 PM
I wish there can be an option to turn off slot warnings, for those of us who checks our routes not flying its no issue but i can see why it's there.

Oh well until it happens i will just keep deleting trash messages. I keep my slots when deleting routes because i may find a use for them.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: stealy on May 06, 2018, 08:37:11 PM
I always keep the slots. I mean... I already paid for them, so I might as well keep them to see if I have any use for them before they expire. I know it can be annoying, but I have grown accustomed to hitting the delete all messages button every day after I skimmed through them.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: groundbum2 on May 09, 2018, 08:25:50 AM
it would be a nice feature if, just like un-flown routes, there was an unused slots screen and we could run down the list and X the ones we wanted to relinquish. And a button to relinquish all slots not at one of our bases.

Simon
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Tha_Ape on May 09, 2018, 08:48:35 AM
To much of a hassle for a small feature, I think. It's just boring, but happens once every 10 or 20 years for a few real days. Not a big deal.

Btw, you can see your unused slots on an airport's slot page. Marked with a *, iirc.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: Karl on June 07, 2018, 06:20:12 PM
If an airline returns unused slots to an airport, is the airline compensated?  My understanding is no.  Use it or lose it.

This is going to become a big issue for me/us as faster jet aircraft replace slower piston aircraft.  Even if I can use the original departure slot, the aircraft will return to base quicker than the originally scheduled piston aircraft.  This will allow for an additional round trip.  I will have to purchase more slots (if available) for the possible second round trip.
Title: Re: Return of Unwanted Slots
Post by: jezbanks on June 07, 2018, 07:47:02 PM
just keep all slots

Screws your competition a month longer at busy airports

Whats not to like?