As I understand - everybody who is playing in AWS received this message:
QuoteThis is a warning of your unused airport slots. Some of them are about to expire or have been already expired.
You must regularly use the airport slots you have acquired for your routes. Not flying a route for two months (or one month after it has been acquired) will lead to suspension and removal of the slot times in question (aircraft maintenance is excluded).
If that warning is rule for everybody, who can explain to me why in GW3 in ATL - company named Boredom still owning all his slots, while not flying single flight for a year ?
https://www.airwaysim.com/game/Info/Airline/View/285/223/#AirlineInfo
If there is a trick to keep owning slots while not flying them - I also want to know it.
There are exceptions to the rule with the two most notable being routes assigned to an aircraft in D check and a company experiencing a staff strike. Trust me, I am watching this situation closely as well. ;)
D check is understandable.
So - you think his staff is on strike ?
100% for sure staff is on strike. No activity for 10 days and he has not scheduled a new plane in more than 2 real life months. Seems like a classic case of loss of interest on his part.
So you mean all one has to do to own and hold prospective slots with little to no cost is set employee wage to nothing?
They have to be assigned to aircraft and have to have flown at least once. After that, if employees strike you keep the slots until you go bankrupt.
Neat.
So not a "no cost" option then. Pass.
well. but it cannot last for infinity
if he doesnt play - it should not influence other players. with his cash reserves it can last 10 more years before bking.
at the same time both of us need that slots to continue battle
Quote from: ZombieSlayer on July 31, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
(.../...)Seems like a classic case of loss of interest on his part.
For a company called Boredom? Nah, it cannot be...
EDIT : that being said, I can understand you. He holds 20% of slots in an airport whose slot availability is not good.
Maybe they're waiting out the initial bloodbath.
Well, so much for that idea....
Checked the airline, and staff has been indeed on strike.
Sounds like fun.
Quote from: Sami on August 01, 2017, 03:20:36 PM
Checked the airline, and staff has been indeed on strike.
Yep, it was a classic strike scenario. Player not active, slow passenger decline, slow CI decline, then pax and CI fell off a cliff while the player was not active for 11 real days. What sucks here is if the question had never been asked, the player may have never come back and ATL would be wide open for the two active airlines there. Instead it is likely his alliance took note of this thread, contacted the player and he fixed his strike situation. The exact same thing happened to me with the same player in the last GW2....staff on strike for 13 days, came back last minute and save the airline. Cost me a realistic shot at a $1 Trillion CV.
don't tell me you don't like challenge... ;D
Quote from: gazzz0x2z on August 01, 2017, 06:51:27 PM
don't tell me you don't like challenge... ;D
Well, I certainly dont want to feel like I am playing a sandbox game! Not all challenges are created equal, however, and in this case challenge would increase had the airline gone bankrupt.
at least - slots should be released.
Quote from: [ATA]MuzhikRB on August 02, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
at least - slots should be released.
Why? Why should them? Because you want an easier game?
I can't remember a situation
in real life when a company whose staff is on strike sees its authorization to work be cancelled. He had a very tough strike. That's all. He's still alive, and still allowed to operate his company. 34 CI for a company of this size is a problem, but well, still, if he dies, it will be from mismanagement. NOT from an arbitrary administrative decision that would be inspired by his two opponents on the market. You had a few months of extra income, which was already very good. Now he's back in operations.
I mean, you seem to imply that not playing for a few days is not your way of playing, and therefore should be punished. I can't agree. It might happen that real life prevents me from playing during one or two weeks, and I would hate to see my company arbitrary closed because of that. That the company would be weakened : normal. It would have missed price management, fleet replacements, new line openings on sudden opportunities, etc.... But closed with all slots stolen? Why? On what legal grounds?
simple rule
if my ac is not flown the route for 2 months i will loose slots. system will not care - either i am on vacation, at work or i just cannot find suitable ac to fill in - i will loose slots. and someone will for sure grab them if they are tasty.
d- check it is understandable for sure - its a game mechanic.
from other side - staff is on strike - how is related to this rule for slots ? it is the same problem of poor (not enough time) management , ac is not flying the route - why it is not tolerated the same way ?
Well, strikes AND D-checks are game mechanisms. Same situation(a game rule prevents the airframe to fly), same rule(the slots are kept).
well
D-check is obligation. you cannot avoid it.
Staff strike - is a result of mismanagement.
its really different things
Let me state things otherwise : this game is already ultra-competitive, and you want to punish mistakes even more. Unrealistically. In your exclusive advantage(well, yours, and my alliance buddy, to be clear). What you ask is a rules bending in your advantage when you need it. As you are already 3rd in scoring in this game. No, I disagree. Boredom's owner has worked hard to build his company, he deserves to keep it as long as it is viable. And viable it still is - he lost only 5M$ the last 15 days, and he's probably working hard moving his CI back up to levels he'll be in the green again. At 60/70, he should be fine.
And your analogy between strikes and not flying at all is a false analogy : if a company is on strike, but has enough cash to survive 10 years, the airport owner has good hopes of having the company back. When a compay buys a slot, but makes nothing apparent with it, the airport owner has good reasons to think it would be better to sell the slot to someone else.
That the strike is caused by mismanagement is not an argument. The planes are here, and if the crew wants to fly, it will fly again. It's nearly guaranteed.
i just stated that i didnt understand why the same result - ac is not flying - treated differently.
nothing more.