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Title: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: qunow on April 03, 2017, 02:13:59 AM
I am now flying 77L on a long thin route which the return trip is capacity constrained due to airport runway length. Most of my Y-class seats are blocked because of that but that route have little C-/F- class demand and most demand are Y-class. That made my flight full in Y-class but empty in C-/F- class. How can we make it to block F-/C- class instead of Y- class?
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: schro on April 03, 2017, 03:53:59 AM
Reconfigure the plane to have fewer of those seats.
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: Cardinal on April 03, 2017, 05:53:58 AM
Frustratingly, the game only blocks Y seats, both automatically (runway/range limits) and manually (oversupply).
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: qunow on April 03, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
Quote from: schro on April 03, 2017, 03:53:59 AM
Reconfigure the plane to have fewer of those seats.
But those planes are flying other routes with high F/C demand.
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: schro on April 03, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Cardinal on April 03, 2017, 05:53:58 AM
Frustratingly, the game only blocks Y seats, both automatically (runway/range limits) and manually (oversupply).

It's by design though. In the past, you had zero predictability over what seats would get blocked, and the pragmatic approach by the change to this behavior indicated that the highest potential revenue seats should always be available.

Quote from: qunow on April 03, 2017, 08:02:37 AM
But those planes are flying other routes with high F/C demand.

So reconfigure your routes to put routes with comparable Y/C/F demand ratios onto the same planes, then adjust those planes seating configurations ;-).
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: JumboShrimp on April 03, 2017, 05:23:11 PM
To solve the issue, there are 3 approaches ranked from the most desirable to less:

1. Eliminate oversupply warning on single flights (so that we don't have to block any seats)
2. Y passengers would automatically get upgraded to C/F when those seats are available (and empty)
3. Let us specify which seats to block.

This is a an issue, since when a player is using standard seating for all aircraft on one kind, let's say Y:150 C:10 and the route has 60 pax demand, I would block the seats to 100 (meaning 90 Y seats would be left).  On Fridays, the demand would be hitting that 90 pax sooner or later, and I would be turning pax away, even though I am flying a gigantic aircraft on the route and I have 10 empty C seats...
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: gazzz0x2z on April 03, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: JumboShrimp on April 03, 2017, 05:23:11 PM
1. Eliminate oversupply warning on single flights (so that we don't have to block any seats)
2. Y passengers would automatically get upgraded to C/F when those seats are available (and empty)
3. Let us specify which seats to block.

Well, I'd love points 1 AND 2. Both would be very useful.
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: qunow on April 03, 2017, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: schro on April 03, 2017, 12:29:45 PM
So reconfigure your routes to put routes with comparable Y/C/F demand ratios onto the same planes, then adjust those planes seating configurations ;-).
...Exccept all other routes I fly to from that base airport are all high in F/C- demand...
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: bdnascar3 on April 04, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Quote from: JumboShrimp on April 03, 2017, 05:23:11 PM

1. Eliminate oversupply warning on single flights (so that we don't have to block any seats)
2. Y passengers would automatically get upgraded to C/F when those seats are available (and empty)
3. Let us specify which seats to block.


I think 1 solves other issues so we shouldn't be allowed to over supply.

I agree with 2 & 3, and would add a 4th - Set as a percentage of that days demand..ie 150% setting would allow say 75 seats on a 50 demand day, but 120 on Friday when the demand is 80
Title: Re: How to block F-/C- class seats instead of Y-class seats?
Post by: Cardinal on April 05, 2017, 01:02:50 AM
Quote from: bdnascar3 on April 04, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Set as a percentage of that days demand..ie 150% setting would allow say 75 seats on a 50 demand day, but 120 on Friday when the demand is 80

If you use 7-day scheduling, you can edit the blocking for each day. Even if you don't normally use 7-day scheduling, if you have one problem route you can split out the daily schedule for just that route and then adjust the blocking accordingly. Until we have a way to sell C/F upgrades to Y pax, this is how I handle blocking seats with large differences between Friday and Saturday.