AirwaySim

Some information about the beta testing process and about sending applications to the beta. As already posted before in the newsletters the beta application process is following:

# First the invitations will be sent to people who have submitted data to us. (time to apply - one week)

# Then people who have subscibed to the AWS newsletter (as of 15th June 08) are invited. (time to apply - one week)

# After the invitations are sent (two weeks total) the applications are screened. Selected number of people are invited to join the beta.

# Time when actual beta testing starts and testers can access the games is not decided yet. In plain English - we will select the beta testers now in good time before we start beta process and the actual testing will start later. Do not ask when this is - the selected beta testers will be informed personally about this.

# When the software is fully ready for beta testing, we will e-mail all those who have been selected as beta testers and ask them to join the games and start testing.

# Actual beta testing will consist of playing 1-3 full games to test the load created to servers and to scout for any additional bugs not found in pre-beta.


In conclusion, please do not post to forums or email us if you can be a beta testers (in such case you can't)... I am getting numerous PM's and emails about this and responding to them takes quite much of my time. The invitations will be sent as described above, and once invitations are sent it takes some time to process the applications. All who have been invited and sent the application will receive an email back from us with more information about the beta, once all the applications have been processed.

If you have any further questions then feel free to ask in this thread (as long as the question isn't anything what has just been said above...  ;) ).

The first batch of beta test invitations have been sent to those who have submitted some data to the AWS project. This includes roughly 50 persons. If you have submitted some data to us within the last two weeks then that has not been added yet and you have not received the invitation - in such case please drop a PM to me via this forum so that I don't forget you ;)

The existing pre-beta team (30+ members) do not have to take any action in regards of the beta as they are already accepted for it automatically.

The invitations to the newsletter's subscribers will be sent within next 10 days or so.

I sent a message to you about the invitation.

Abraço!

Eduardo Morteo Bastos
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

And I replied too already ;)

Quote from: sami on July 27, 2008, 01:23:31 PM
And I replied too already ;)

And I sent you other message about new airports in South America.

Wow... 50 people. They must be very lucky.  ;D

Hey Sami,

When do you expect the invitated people will get a reply on their filled in 'join-the-beta-form'?

Today I think, but the beta games start when the whole beta lot is full. Meaning that I'll send the rest of the invitations in the next few days and beta's start perhaps in two weeks or so.

Second batch of beta test invitations have been sent today to those who were subscribed to our newsletter.

Again there is one week time to reply to the invitation, and then the applications are processed and each who has sent the application will get an email back from us. The time when beta testing starts will be announced later.

The invitations have been sent to some 670 people (+ some 30 already testing the game), while 500 players is the designed maximum for the beta. If we get more than 450-470 beta applications, the people are selected by random from those who fullfill the beta test criteria.

By the way - noticed a small error in the latest beta invitations..

It said in the "intro" as follows: This email is sent to you as you have submitted some data to the AirwaySim project. ... but naturally this was not the fact but the invitation was sent because you were subscribed to the newsletter of the project. But doesn't matter - just in case someone is really reading that email and wondering about what the heck I have written again ...  ;)

Hello Sami,

Hereby a hint for the beta testing. Once people start to report bugs yo want to know what sytem they use. So it might be a good thing to have people fill out a form before the testing starts in which they should give the following details:

Browser(s) used (would be interesting to have testers with browsers like Opera, Safari and Conqueror apart from Firefox and IE)
Screen display
OS
System

and any other things worth knowing.


Also I have a question about the involvement in other airline games question. I am not involved in manegement or development of any. I did present a lot of airport data to 2 other games though. This shouldn't be a problem should it?

Waerth

Yeah, good point. Though the browser issues should be really nonexistent as the code should adhere web standards and does not contain any IE-only-stupid-coding or something like that. ;)

And beta is non-available to those who are considered as staff members or developers (etc) of other products of similar nature, and simple data collection isn't that in my mind.

I know unfortunately not all browser developers adhere to the web standards set. Especially IE is notorious for not complying to them. I am developing my own site about food. And am helped by a developer for that and learning PHP and MySQL in the progress but sometimes things that are standard do not work in IE  :'(

Anyway thanks for the answer. Hope to see the game be a winner ..... I actually hope every game will be a winner  ;D !

Waerth

Just a small friendly reminder generally:

As the beta is getting closer I am getting an increased number of different queries to my email / forum PM inbox. There's a lot of people invited and naturally some things that are not clear so that is understandable. However as there is still a lot of work to do, please try to keep the communications to minimum ... So check & search the forum first if the topic has been discussed.

And also - as mentioned already, all who have sent the beta application will get a reply to their email once it's been reviewed. This may take a week or two from the date you sent it, as there are a lot of applications.

And yet repeating myself a bit - the beta itself will start when the software is ready for that. And those who've been accepted for the beta will then (again) get another email about more details of it, a few days before the game starts or so. So for now you do not need to visit the site every day or keep an eye if some magic button appears somewhere that takes you to the games ... you will get the email and notice it then, trust me.  ;)

Ive been waiting and on newletter list have a hotmail email but didnt get invite to beta ;(  can you look into it please


AirwaySim Newsletter‏
From: AirwaySim (xxxx)
Sent: Wed 6/04/08 12:52 AM
To:  xxxx

AirwaySim Newsletter -

Thank you for subscribing to our newsletter. We will send you occasional e-mails to inform about our site's latest developments.

https://www.airwaysim.com



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please don't write emails to public messages / Sam

According to the list the invitation has been sent in the second batch. Check the spam? (though I see a lot of hotmail users already having sent the application) or then it has been lost somewhere in between, in which case I'll resend.. (PM me for that)

A note:

I received an invitation E-mail on july,29.

Now I´m waiting the activation.

Thanks to invite me!

Yes - it said there that you should expect a reply within max 1-2 weeks from sending the appl. Even said it in this thread in the message I posted yesteday.

Quote from: sami on August 03, 2008, 06:40:36 PM
Yes - it said there that you should expect a reply within max 1-2 weeks from sending the appl. Even said it in this thread in the message I posted yesteday.

I know, that´s ok.
I´m still looking for airports.
You wrote to me in a message that some IATA codes were missing when I sent you the airports information. I entered in a website with a list of almost all IATA codes of Brazilian airports, but didn´t find those codes. So I tried to appeal to wikipedia, but I don´t know if wikipedia is a good source in this case.

Can I still join beta? :/

thank you Sami  got it and sent in 

Perhaps due to summer time and holidays the number of sent beta applications is at the moment lower than I expected. The invitations were sent to roughly 670 people and at the moment there are approx 300 beta applications in the system. The time to reply to the invitations has been one week as the group must be collected before beta starts but I have now extended this time for a few days.

So there will be probably one more public invitation round. It will be announced at the website news and at the forums here and the fastest to reply (=to send an invitation) will be accepted, if they fullfill the requirements of course. But this will be announced separately later on if it will be needed (so don't ask yet).


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And also - some 50% of already sent beta applications have been processed, others will be done during this or next week.

I'll wait as long as I have to. Just please start the beta games before September 1st. ;)

Quote from: sami on August 06, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
Perhaps due to summer time and holidays the number of sent beta applications is at the moment lower than I expected. The invitations were sent to roughly 670 people and at the moment there are approx 300 beta applications in the system. The time to reply to the invitations has been one week as the group must be collected before beta starts but I have now extended this time for a few days.

I think the summer holidays have less of an impact than you would expect. I think the waiting time might be to blame. People get all excited over something and then they have to wait a long time so they forget about it. It is no criticism it is a sign 'o' the times. People are getting extremely short attention spans and rush from one hype to the next.

Waerth

so now you have applications bak what happens now, when will we  play?

perhaps two weeks or so is what sami said in a earlier post!

Quote from: jacol on August 04, 2008, 10:34:26 AM
Can I still join beta? :/

https://www.airwaysim.com/forum/index.php/topic,728.msg4746/topicseen.html#msg4746

Im sure that Sami posted that people are not to ask when beta is happening? It hasnt been decided yet. So please calm down you have been selected to be beta, yay be happy, but there is no need now to harrass sami while he works on the final preparations...If you havent been selected, then there is a link in the previous post for people to apply for beta

Josh

2 weeks is the preliminary stated in a previous post

heya,

yeah, the 2 weeks was the first approximate time what it takes to process the applications. That has been done now however (not the last batch from the public list though).

Beta itself starts when software is ready for that and each beta member is getting an email about that when the time comes. Until then it's really unnecessary to PM or email me about that as the instructions have been most clear.

Updates on the beta status - I need to finish couple route related pages and then it's prettymuch done. Aircraft class configuration (adjust number of seats etc) won't be in beta yet though.

Hoping to get the beta started in a week or two. Again beta testers will get email from me then...

Sounds awesome Sami  :laugh:

SO excited!  ;D

That is really awesome, I really am getting excited as well!

 :) Please choose me to test this .
this would be amzing

Quote from: michelle123 on August 19, 2008, 11:06:28 AM
:) Please choose me to test this .
this would be amzing

Sorry, all invitations were sent out already, unless Sami has something up his sleeves. ;)

I would of loved to join but I was on holidays when the invites were sent out and now it is to late :( :( :(
Zillion

Quote from: zillion777 on August 21, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
I would of loved to join but I was on holidays when the invites were sent out and now it is to late :( :( :(
Zillion

Don't give up hope. PM Sami or go to the IRC channel. Maybe you'll get lucky. ;)

zillion, Try the email's link now..

Thanks man
I got it

I can't wait!!!!! ;D ;D ;D

I've been waiting for a more in depth business simulation like this.  And I Love aviation so this makes it all the better!

And i think you will only have to wait a few more days.

THIS IS GONNA BE GREAT!!!!

Note, there won't be any new major features before the beta launch. I have added player-to-player aircraft leasing, weather based delays and various other small improvements lately but now the feature status is "frozen".

All I have to do is make the few route related management pages, clear any bugs that appear and then we can get started with the beta.

Again, email will follow once this is done.

Hehe, i've been checking my e-mail everyday for that e-mail...
And weather based delays is gonna be excellent.

Quote from: justinmmm690 on August 24, 2008, 04:22:39 PM
Hehe, i've been checking my e-mail everyday for that e-mail...

I have been checking my E-mail every hour ;D

i've been waiting for a long time. Disapointed at the continueing delayed beta release date  :o(who cares its here now) but now its so soon I can't wait. Visiting the site every few weeks or so hoping for news! So EXCITED :D :) ;D 

Just realised it was a year ago I joined! Long time waiting! sami sure will have delivered a great game tht completely rewrites airline simulation.

And as a side note ... I see from the logs that from time to time some people are trying to "cleverly" figure out where the beta might be .. trying out different directories (like /beta/ for example  :P ) and other methods in trying to cheat their way in ...

Naturally that won't work as the game access is fully tied into individual account permissions & other settings. And the experimenters will just earn a temporary ban to the site for wasting my time. ;D

i'd say another 2-3 days before we get the e-mail cud b wrong tho ;D

I CAN'T WAIT NOW!  ;D

arrrghhh nooo i have just joined and missed Beta invites :( if anyone doesn't accept their invitation send it my way ;) game looks stunning and in depth by the way great work!

Quote from: Dazwalsh on August 26, 2008, 12:22:36 AM
arrrghhh nooo i have just joined and missed Beta invites :( if anyone doesn't accept their invitation send it my way ;) game looks stunning and in depth by the way great work!

Wooow there Jolly Roger! I bet some people who joined before you would most likely join the game. :laugh:

i have been tracking progress of airwaysim for the last few months with great anticipation!, its only now i have joined because i heard beta was starting and you had to register or send data, but oh well i shall wait patiently for the full game, im gonna have to struggle making a profit with the other well known sim for now :(

hope i wasnt rude in the earlier post.

regards
daz

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I wish to be a beta tester"   P L E A S E  ! ! !

Hi everoby,

I discover AirwaySim last week and i will be a beta tester please  :D

PS : sorry for my english speaking but i'm french  :-[ 

i would like to test beta pls

i will add my voice to the rabble requesting beta access  :-[

Posting requests here or via PM to me do not help - please take a while to read the thread's first message...(!)

If and when more people are needed it is announced separately at the news and here.